Re: [fonc] OT? Polish syntax

2012-03-19 Thread BGB
On 3/18/2012 6:54 PM, Martin Baldan wrote: BGB, please see my answer to shaun. In short: _ I'm not looking for stack-based languages. I want a Lisp which got rid of (most of the) the parens by using fixed arity and types, without any loss of genericity, homoiconicity or other desirable

Re: [fonc] OT? Polish syntax

2012-03-19 Thread BGB
On 3/19/2012 5:24 AM, Martin Baldan wrote: but, hmm... one could always have 2 stacks: create a stack over the stack, in turn reversing the RPN into PN, and also gets some meta going on... Uh, I'm afraid one stack is one too many for me. But then again, I'm not sure I get what you mean. in

Re: [fonc] Naive question

2012-03-19 Thread Alexis Read
You could try VHDL, it's particularly suited to time/event driven state changes, and you can make assertions in complementary languages if need be. Regards, Alexis On 19 March 2012 20:10, Benoît Fleury benoit.fle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there is any language out there that

Re: [fonc] Naive question

2012-03-19 Thread Alan Kay
Hi Benoit This is basically what publish and subscribe schemes are all about. Linda is a simple coordination protocol for organizing such loose couplings. There are sketches of such mechanisms in most of the STEPS reports Spreadsheets are simple versions of this The Playground language

Re: [fonc] Naive question

2012-03-19 Thread John Nilsson
Maybe not what you are looking for, but you might find http://awelon.org/ interesting. BR, John 2012/3/19 Benoît Fleury benoit.fle...@gmail.com: Hi, I was wondering if there is any language out there that lets you describe the behavior of an object as a grammar. An object would receive a

Re: [fonc] Naive question

2012-03-19 Thread David Harris
Hi All-- Just wanted to say that there is some cross-over here to electronic bus systems, and the related Producer-Consumer paradigm (PC). Some bus systems broadcast all messages to all connected nodes, ie they are unaddressed. In particular Bosch's CAN bus, used in cars, trucks, industry, and

Re: [fonc] Naive question

2012-03-19 Thread David Barbour
Better off looking at my blog. http://awelonblue.wordpress.com I'm still working on a concept of generative grammars for stable pseudo-state. It's described in a few of my blog articles, including the most recent ones. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:52 PM, John Nilsson j...@milsson.nu wrote: Maybe

[fonc] Publish/subscribe vs. send

2012-03-19 Thread Casey Ransberger
Here's the real naive question... I'm fuzzy about why objects should receive messages but not send them. I think I can see the mechanics of how it might work, I just don't grok why it's important. What motivates? Are we trying to eliminate the overhead of ST-style message passing? Is

Re: [fonc] Publish/subscribe vs. send

2012-03-19 Thread Benoît Fleury
Hi Casey, the decoupling of the event emitters and receivers is what I find the most interesting in a pub/sub model. The publisher raises an event (in its semantic domain) and does not know what subscribers are going to receive it or what they're going to do with it. One of the advantage of this

Re: [fonc] Publish/subscribe vs. send

2012-03-19 Thread David Barbour
Various motivations include looser coupling, extensibility, resilience. Also, pub/sub allows modeling frameworks as regular objects. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.comwrote: Here's the real naive question... I'm fuzzy about why objects should receive