[Foresight-devel] Please use lists.foresightlinux.org for foresight-devel

2013-01-09 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Please update your mail aliases (if any) from lists.rpath.org to lists.foresightlinux.org so that when you send mail to foresight-devel, it goes to the right list and is archived in the right place. I wanted to make sure all recipients of the foresight-devel lists know to use lists.foresightlinux.

[Foresight-devel] Re: The new FL base system -- requirements, wants and wishes?

2013-01-09 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:38:14PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Very much so. In general, being able to use binaries built for RHEL > (that is, having a compatible set of core libraries available even > if there are also newer libraries available) will make it more appealing >

[Foresight-devel] Re: The new FL base system -- requirements, wants and wishes?

2013-01-07 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 03:46:48PM +0100, Rune Morling wrote: > As I understood it, when I asked about Michael's idea of an ideal FL > base system, he mentioned how in his view RH is moving too slow, while > fedora is perhaps sometimes too close to the bleeding/experimental edge > for comfort. T

[Foresight-devel] Re: foresight infrastructure update

2012-12-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Update: the production repositories are back and expected to remain up. JIRA, Confluence, and build services are currently expected to be up by some time tomorrow. We'll continue to work on transitioning to the new infrastructure quickly. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 09:51:49AM -0500, Mich

[Foresight-devel] foresight infrastructure update

2012-12-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
The infrastructure changes that have been posted in the news section of the web site, on the planet, on G+, and discussed on IRC somehow never made it to this list, for which I apologize. We are in the process of deploying a new cluster of systems for both developer services and public repositorie

[Foresight-devel] Re: FL3 label structure

2012-09-16 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:22:09PM +0200, Tomas Forsman wrote: > We will still be using devel, qa and stable stages? > Feels like we can go down to devel and stable only. But that's only my > thought about it. Well, there are several reasons we're only using two now. Among them: * An ancient (

[Foresight-devel] FL3 label structure

2012-09-10 Thread Michael K. Johnson
One of the design goals in Conary's "promote" process is to rewrite all trove references as if they existed on the target label, where that makes sense, in order to avoid references that expose the development process. This was really designed for a small number of packages and proprietary OEM pro

[Foresight-devel] Re: Possible to setup mailinglist from commits?

2012-09-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Just to be clear, this is a question that rPath would have to address as long as the gameway repository continues to be maintained through the mostly-deactivated rBuilder infrastructure. We can migrate it to operating with a foresight-hosted repository and mirroring like the foresight.rpath.org re

[Foresight-devel] Re: Help to create r.ScriptPostInstall / r.ScriptPostUpdate

2012-05-14 Thread Michael K. Johnson
ed? > Maybe that's a bad idea too, as if they change in the future, it wont > change backif i understands it right. > > So, im not sure what's best to do now. > > > 2012-05-14 17:20, Michael K. Johnson skrev: > > So, if anyone has LXDE installed on their

[Foresight-devel] Re: Help to create r.ScriptPostInstall / r.ScriptPostUpdate

2012-05-14 Thread Michael K. Johnson
So, if anyone has LXDE installed on their systems, you want to arbitrarily push around the osd notifications, even if they also have GNOME installed? It's not clear to me that this makes sense. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:26:01AM +0200, Tomas Forsman wrote: > Hello all, > > Need some help to crea

[Foresight-devel] dropbox recipe review

2012-04-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I missed TForsman asking for recipe review on IRC so responding in email: +r.SetModes('%(destdir)s/opt/dropbox/dropbox', 0755) +r.SetModes('%(destdir)s/opt/dropbox/dropboxd', 0755) You don't want %(destdir)s in there. ___ Foresight-devel

[Foresight-devel] Re: How do we erase kernels now?

2012-03-13 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 03:00:22PM +0100, Tomas Forsman wrote: > Hello, we only unpin the kernels, then they will be uninstalled with > updateall or sync. > > sudo conary unpin kernel=3.1.6-1-1 Actually, with system model, unpin is "unpin and sync" which erases the kernel as well as unpinning it

[Foresight-devel] developer contexts

2011-10-23 Thread Michael K. Johnson
http://lists.rpath.org/pipermail/foresight-commits/2011-October/050767.html is a bad idea. Part of the point of *having* developer contexts is specifically not to use them as root. Perhaps instead, we could have a blank developer context in the default config that is overridden in the developer c

[Foresight-devel] Re: Temporary workaround: installing tarballs

2011-07-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:36:59PM +0100, António Meireles wrote: > as soon as the last promote to qa (done) finishes mirroring i will > generate a formal set of 2qa isos and tarballs. (and will post here URLs > mid tomorrow). Based on a message António sent me: group-gnome-dist-devel=foresight.

[Foresight-devel] Re: Temporary workaround: installing tarballs

2011-07-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:59:35AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > With luck you'll have a working Foresight system. If you don't, > ask for help. Probably I forgot an important step. Sorry. I think I had to modify /etc/bootloader.d/root.conf to change the "root&qu

[Foresight-devel] Temporary workaround: installing tarballs

2011-07-15 Thread Michael K. Johnson
A few weeks ago, I had to install on Sandy Bridge hardware that is not supported in the kernel in the 2.5.0 media. While I've done some installer work recently, it will be at least weeks before there's a new installer you can use. In the meantime, here's an alternative, manual workaround process

[Foresight-devel] Re: IMPORTANT: Build Systems Will Be Down Over This Weekend

2011-04-04 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:37:08AM -0400, Scott Parkerson wrote: > Looks like fdev is back, but JIRA/Confluence are down. gxti has tried > to power on the box, but it doesn't stay powered on. Well, I have months of incremental backups of both jira and confluence, so if we have to install on the ma

[Foresight-devel] Re: More infrastructure down this weekend

2011-03-31 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 03:49:19PM -0400, Elliot Peele wrote: > There is a named running on fdev, but I'm not sure if it is being used. The > whois records for foresightlinux.org point at Ken's dns servers. fdev is the master; ken and I run the two slaves. The glue records point to the slaves, a

[Foresight-devel] More infrastructure down this weekend

2011-03-31 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:36:54AM -0400, Og Maciel wrote: > As the rPath guys will be moving to a new office over this weekend > (April 1 - 3), be aware that all of the systems (mostly build machines > afaik) will be shutdown and unavailable. I will try to email whenever > all systems are back onl

[Foresight-devel] Re: audit the size of foresight

2011-01-26 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bähr wrote: > i think the current info is already sufficient to help find the low > hanging fruits which will help bring down the size of the install. I'm saying that the ordering could be substantially different when you calculate sizes differently

[Foresight-devel] Re: audit the size of foresight

2011-01-26 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:58:24PM +0800, Jesse Zhang wrote: > For example on the x86_64 system, glibc accounts for 12% of the whole > system. And from big to small, mono>faenza-icon-theme>sun-jdk>kernel. ... > See it for yourself. On the second sheet, the size of :locale troves are > shown. Comp

[Foresight-devel] Re: New web site theme enabled

2011-01-26 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:57:59AM -0500, Og Maciel wrote: > mkj is currently working on that and it may even be done already > (there was an issue around)... According to my testing, it's all done, so let me know whether anything fails to work. What I tested was that both http://foresightlinux.o

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2011-01-25 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Confluence is essentially recovered. Scott Parkerson managed to recover the confluence database; he was able to determine that only a referrer log table was damaged and convince postgres to recover sanity, using careful work with dd and hexdump. Thanks, Scott! Now, we need to get proper backups

[Foresight-devel] pdftk

2011-01-13 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I went to build a new version of pdftk, and discovered in gcc.recipe: conf += ('--enable-languages=c,c++,objc,obj-c++,fortran ' # we have openjdk now, right ? '--disable-libgcj ' However, pdftk doesn't work with JDK, it's clearly s

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 01:18:17AM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > By searching "InfoURL getheader python" on Google as suggested by the > error page I've found as first results: > http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html > which is linked by another result : > http://docs.python.org/library/http

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 06:51:52PM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > Do you know if conary 2.2 has already been tested using python 2.7 ? Because > Fedora 14 uses already Python 2.7 but i should still be able to install > python 2.6 if needed by conary. Previously, I thought we had looked at it, b

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:08:55AM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > But how have you tried ? I tried running two commands, both of which succeeded: cvc newpkg libelf-lgpl=bertux.rpath@boots:f14-devel cvc newpkg libelf-lgpl=mkj.rpath@boots:f14-devel "cvc newpkg" does not require write acce

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-05 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:47:18AM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > When i try to run : > cvc newpkg libelf-lgpl=bertux.rpath@boots:f14-devel > it replies : > error: Error occurred opening repository > https://:@bertux.rpath.org/conary/: InfoURL instance has no > attribute 'getheader' > > What

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-04 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 10:31:19PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > We will need to mirror all of the F14 x86/x86_64 yum repositories > to fdev. We'll need to do the initial mirror operations in a way > that does not adversely impact rPath's operations, either by choosing >

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-03 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 06:49:13PM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > Le 3 déc. 2010 à 16:15, "Michael K. Johnson" a écrit : > > You say you documented it -- I don't recall seeing the summary sent to > > this list. > It's on http://www.netinfolution.info/pack

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-03 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 11:51:23AM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > I've already a public unused server installed with Fedora 14 and I've > documented how to fetch, compile and install conary 2.2 to make it work on > Fedora 14. > So if it would be simpler to start in LXC container hosted on my ser

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-02 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 04:40:22AM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > the next think (from my perspective) is to figure out exactly where to > start. if you could name one thing that someone of us can do now. (even > if that thing is to prod someone specific to do the next step) The best answer I have i

[Foresight-devel] Boots for Fedora 14

2010-12-02 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 03:10:21AM +0100, Martin Bähr wrote: > can you elaborate on the steps needed at this point to get to an > installable system. Only a bit. I haven't been involved in mirrorball development for months, so I'm a bit out of date with regard to recent development anyway. This

[Foresight-devel] Re: Boots for Fedora 14 not with me

2010-12-02 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 08:02:10AM -0800, Adam Chasen wrote: > I have minimal experience with mirrorball and I am not up to speed with what > we are attempting to achieve with boots, but I will take on getting > mirrorball up and running starting the beginning of next year. Do we have > any wiki or

[Foresight-devel] Re: Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-30 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 04:13:59AM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 07:50:51PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > I tried in 2.2.0 beta to improve the man page descriptions of system > > model update operations. Let me know if it's still confusing; >

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2.1 beta

2010-11-29 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:09:05AM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 02:04:46PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > maybe i need to update more than just the conary package. > > I assume you have conary, conary-build, and conary-repository in sync? > &g

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2.1 beta

2010-11-29 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 07:53:12PM +0100, Martin Bähr wrote: > genmodel crashes for me. > i tried to run updateall, which failed, then tried to just update conary > which also failed. but then i figured my systemi-model is to old > anyways, so i wiped it and the model cache, at which point i could

[Foresight-devel] Re: building for fl:2-devel: need rmake 2.0.6

2010-11-25 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:55:42PM -0600, Andres Vargas wrote: > it is updated on fdev ? > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Michael K. Johnson > wrote: > > This update has already been applied to the fdev build cluster. Yes. _

[Foresight-devel] conary 2.2.1 beta

2010-11-24 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I have built the 2.2.1 beta release of Conary on fl:2-devel and on fl:2-qa directly (to make sure it is compatible with the rest of fl:2-qa right now). I have not rebuilt groups on either label; I'll leave that to António. This second beta of the 2.2 series has two significant changes: * The gen

[Foresight-devel] Re: Foresight Boots for Fedora 14

2010-11-23 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:27:07PM +0100, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > Do you think i should only follow > https://bitbucket.org/johnsonm/mirrorball-boots-config without > updating for more recent mirrorball ? Or use hg mergre feature to try > to merge recent mirrorball in your mirrorball-boots-config

[Foresight-devel] Re: Foresight Boots for Fedora 14

2010-11-23 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I haven't meant to ignore you, I've just been consumed with Conary 2.2 system model work. I have been thinking about what we'd *really* need to do to make a boots import useful. I don't think that we need a development stage at all. I think that we can import packages directly onto the release l

[Foresight-devel] building for fl:2-devel: need rmake 2.0.6

2010-11-23 Thread Michael K. Johnson
If you are building packages for fl:2-devel, you will first need to update rmake to 2.0.6. The new glibc on fl:2-devel exposes https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RMK-1062 which was fixed in rmake 2.0.6 which is available on both fl:2-devel and fl:2-qa. The symptom of RMK-1062 is an error that looks

[Foresight-devel] Re: Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:22:28AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I don't mean to be a RTFM person, but I do want to make the man page > useful for this. Therefore, could you please re-read the man page > description of system model updates, so that we can have this discu

[Foresight-devel] conary 2.2.0 beta

2010-11-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I have built the 2.2.0 beta release of Conary on fl:2-devel and on fl:2-qa directly (to make sure it is compatible with the rest of fl:2-qa right now). I have not rebuilt groups on either label; I'll leave that to António. This first beta of the 2.2 series contains several changes from the previo

[Foresight-devel] Re: Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-19 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:20:06AM +0100, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:19:02PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > Each line manipulates the overall state relative to the state in > > the previous line. This is an ordered list of operations, not an >

[Foresight-devel] Re: Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:44:52AM +0100, Martin Bähr wrote: > seperate lines are ok too? > update exif=contrib.rpath@rpl:2/0.6.9-7-0.1 > update exiftags=contrib.rpath@rpl:2/1.01-2-0.1 > update jhead=contrib.rpath@rpl:2/2.8-1-0.1 > > i think it makes the file more read

[Foresight-devel] Re: Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:03:56PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > When you run the "conary updateall" command, all trove reference that > include a version (not just a label) will update to the latest version. Three giant steps forward, one tiny step back. It turns out

[Foresight-devel] Conary updates: rewriting your model

2010-11-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I just built conary=2.2.alpha_a98b4e8eaf6f-1-1 which has several important changes, several of which were suggested by foresight developers. Again, I thank you for your testing and suggestions. Also, I thank you for your patience as you read through this long email. If you use system model, you d

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-12 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 06:28:29PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Once we're satisfied with the conversion, we can add code to load > the contents into a new confluence instance as a "restoreBot" user > to make it clear where the contents came from. By keeping the H

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-12 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:13:24AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Looking closer, I think that it's pretty minimal and it will be less > work to do our own thing with lxml/xpath. OK, I started work on that. I've checked the scraper (thank John!), the combined scraped pages,

[Foresight-devel] Model cache format change: instruction update

2010-11-12 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 02:28:51PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > In particular, the next conary release (later today) will introduce > a modelcache format change, so AFTER you do the next update that > includes a new conary, you'll need to remove the > /var/lib/conarydb/model

[Foresight-devel] Conary updates and the modelcache

2010-11-12 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Thanks again for all the great feedback several of you have been providing on the new system model updates. I wanted to let you know that as we make changes to system model code, we occasionally are changing the format of the file /var/lib/conarydb/modelcache in incompatible ways. After we do a r

[Foresight-devel] Re: unable to install certain devel troves

2010-11-12 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:34:00AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Thanks! If you would, please open an issue at issues.rpath.com in the > Conary project against version 2.2(mercurial) with this information, > and attach two files: /etc/conary/system-model and > /var/lib/conar

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-11 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:09:16AM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/HTML+To+Confluence+Converter > looks like it might be interesting. Looking closer, I think that it's pretty minimal and it will be less work to do our own thing with

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-11 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 06:23:18PM -0800, John Welborn wrote: > In my home directory on fdev under confluence I am mirroring all the > cached pages. Google has already blocked me from fdev so I'm using a > couple proxies to generate mirrors in parallel for comparison. > > Then it will be a matte

[Foresight-devel] Re: Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-10 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:52:32PM -0500, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > certainly did. So, visit: > http://www.google.com/search?q=foresight+site%3Awiki.foresightlinux.org > and start following the "Cached" links and cutting and pasting content. Be aware that "Cached&quo

[Foresight-devel] Recovering confluence contents

2010-11-10 Thread Michael K. Johnson
OK, Now we need volunteers. No programming experience is required. There was a problem with our confluence installation: apparently no one realized that backup dumps were not being made, and then when data corruption hit on the storage, we ended up with a uselessly corrupt database. (We will not

[Foresight-devel] issues.foresightlinux.org resurrected

2010-11-10 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Scott Parkerson kindly resurrected the issues system. issues.foresightlinux.org shares a public IP with foresight-commits.rpath.com (via proxy). In order to make this work with SSL, we had to replace the SSL certificate associated with that IP with a wildcard certificate. It currently has some b

[Foresight-devel] Re: unable to install certain devel troves

2010-11-08 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Thanks! If you would, please open an issue at issues.rpath.com in the Conary project against version 2.2(mercurial) with this information, and attach two files: /etc/conary/system-model and /var/lib/conarydb/manifest Thanks again! On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 10:06:19AM +0800, Jesse Zhang wrote: > Ru

[Foresight-devel] Re: Wine gstreamer

2010-11-02 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 09:57:27AM +0100, Tomas Forsman wrote: > If you ask me, i think we should. Can't see any problems to add it. > We should try to make wine as perfect as we can, as many users use wine > for games, spotify and so on. To be clear, I'm not taking responsibility for figuring ou

[Foresight-devel] Wine gstreamer

2010-11-01 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Wine 1.3.6 has gstreamer support of some sort -- should we be adding gstreamer to the wine buildreqs? ___ Foresight-devel mailing list Foresight-devel@lists.rpath.org http://lists.rpath.org/mailman/listinfo/foresight-devel

[Foresight-devel] Re: Known good system-model file for group-gnome-dist-devel x86_64 on fl:2-devel ?

2010-11-01 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:00:31PM +0100, Rune Morling wrote: > I read that mail (but not the entire thread) and apparently I didn't > understand its implications. Sorry not to have been clear enough... :( > That said, this is how I would guess a minimal system-model for an > x86_64 sytem with a

[Foresight-devel] Re: Known good system-model file for group-gnome-dist-devel x86_64 on fl:2-devel ?

2010-11-01 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:38:18PM +0100, Rune Morling wrote: > I ran an updateall on my x86_64 system from the 2010-10-18 group-world > to the 2010-10-26 group-world, which updated conary, restarted and > promptly 'broke' conary (it appears a 32bit version was installed). The pain of alpha testin

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-29 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:03:30PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > ah, hmm. how about a mode like: i know all my top-level packages are > mine and not zombies? That's a thought. Probably not that hard to implement. I'll look at that. > yes, that is quite likely. a side effect of the old conary upd

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-29 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 06:45:15AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > tried that, but still found some issues: > you received my system model email so i won't reproduce it here, > the points that i am concerned about are the following steps to match > the model. > > Erase foresight-contexts(:config)=0

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-25 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:50:34AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > yes, i am hitting that error on my machine in the office. Sorry -- I've been trying to make genmodel more reliably build working models with this fix in place -- it has exposed some weaknesses in the simplification in genmodel. > is

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 07:22:10PM +0800, Jesse Zhang wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Michael K. Johnson > wrote: > > search > > group-world=foresight.rpath@fl:2-devel/2.4.9.1+2010.10.18-0.1-2[~!gcc.core] > > I wrote it as "search group-world=f

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 06:05:09PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > i have made some changes to fix a few missing items and get rid of > unwanted stuff. > > i remember you mentioned earlier that testing genmodel would be more > helpful if done on a fresh system. I was thinking there mainly of a syste

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-21 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 05:01:18AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > is it helpful (for genmodel testing) if i roll back all changes to the > point before i started using system model (that's just a handful of > updates) and run genmodel there? No, doesn't matter, unless you have afterward made signifi

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 08:25:53PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I have successfully built conary 2.2.alpha_7e40b066b71c and after > new groups finish building, your updates will include conary > 2.2.alpha_7e40b066b71c. It looks like António and I both built groups at the same time,

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:39:02PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 03:10:21PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > I am currently building a new snapshot: conary=2.2.alpha_caf708cb7e9e > > > > IMMEDIATELY AFTER you update to this shapshot (

[Foresight-devel] Re: system-model users: important change!

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 03:10:21PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I am currently building a new snapshot: conary=2.2.alpha_caf708cb7e9e > > IMMEDIATELY AFTER you update to this shapshot (or later, if I update > further) There was a bug in caf708cb7e9e and I updated further, to

[Foresight-devel] system-model users: important change!

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:18:01PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:23:27AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > > conary-2.2 is not released yet, so there is still time to change how > > conary update works. > > And, on those lines, I wanted t

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:00:27PM +0800, Jesse Zhang wrote: > Hi, > On 10/15/2010 12:31 AM, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > When you run conary install/update/erase commands, they modify that > > file, and then apply it to the system. > > It seems 'erase -i'

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-20 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:41:21AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > is there a way to watch what conary sends over the wire? Yes! The CONARY_CLIENT_LOG environment variable specifies a file to which to write a binary log of XML-RPC traffic, and it works with both conary and cvc. CONARY_CLIENT_LOG=/t

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-19 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 02:39:28AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > > The simpler query is whether a trove exists. It does. > > the simpler query could tell me whether a trove is installable. > that is the question i would expect most people have. It *is* installable. It installs by directing to an

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:23:27AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > conary-2.2 is not released yet, so there is still time to change how > conary update works. And, on those lines, I wanted to say that this whole conversation has been very helpful, and we're looking at changing semantics as a result of

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:36:38PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > $ conary rq --components --all-troves --trove-flags > > uvcvideo-kernel=/foresight.rpath@fl:devel//2-qa-kernel/0-0.2-1 > > uvcvideo-ker

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:08:59PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > ok, so how do i install it? > even the most explicit: > # conary update > uvcvideo-kernel=/foresight.rpath@fl:devel//2-qa-kernel/0-0.2-1 > or > # conary install > uvcvideo-kernel=/foresight.rpath@fl:devel//2-qa-kernel/0-0.2-

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:44:45PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > the question is, which behaviour do we want for foresight? > do we want to add the installLabelPath to a default foresight install? For normal users, I feel fairly strongly that sticking to the groups will give them a better experienc

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 05:02:12PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > here is another puzzling behaviour: > > # conary rq uvcvideo-kernel > uvcvideo-kernel=0-0.2-1 > # conary update uvcvideo-kernel > No troves found matching: uvcvideo-kernel > # conary update uvcvideo-kernel=0-0.2-1 > No troves found ma

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:02:05AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > I don't follow this. You said, "it doesn't work" and then, as > > far as I can tell, demonstrated that "conary insta

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-18 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:09:47AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:18:05AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > > one point i hope to find is that conary gives feedback explaining why > > > there is nothing to update. > > That's a flaw, I th

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-15 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 05:57:39AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > i guess, what i don't understand is, why does bypassing the search path > imply bypassing the system model? I misunderstood you to have been saying that you wanted conary update to bypass the system model while install used the system

[Foresight-devel] Re: conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-14 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:23:27AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:31:02PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > You can use vi to edit this file, and then run the "conary sync" > > command to apply the system model to your system. > > can i

[Foresight-devel] conary 2.2 snapshot on fl:2-devel

2010-10-14 Thread Michael K. Johnson
The latest groups on fl:2-devel contain a snapshot of the conary-2.2 branch. This is the branch of conary that contains the "system model" code that you may have heard mentions of on #foresight-devel First: This new version of Conary will not automatically switch to "system model" update mode.

[Foresight-devel] Re: fdev maintenance update

2010-10-07 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 09:24:46PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > * Enable developer accounts on foresight-commits DONE Note that I may easily have made mistakes in this process and failed to turn on developer accounts that I should have. Please, if you used to be able to commit and

[Foresight-devel] Re: Using foresight-commits

2010-10-07 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 09:23:33PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > Foresight developers will need to adjust, very slightly. > > * Please DO NOT use foresight-commits for system updates. Your > system conary configuration should not include a repositoryMap > entry for

[Foresight-devel] Re: fdev maintenance update

2010-10-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
The last (I hope) chapter of the saga of the repository conversion: * Reverse direction of mirror DONE * Run mirror DONE * Enable commitmail from foresight-commits DONE * Test commit DONE: http://lists.rpath.org/pipermail/foresight-commits/2010-October/044258.html * Test build DONE: http

[Foresight-devel] Using foresight-commits

2010-10-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I have finished the process of splitting the foresight repository into two repositories. All commits will be made to the new foresight-commits repository. Those commits will then be immediately mirrored out to the main foresight repository. This makes foresight development and system updates most

[Foresight-devel] Building on fdev

2010-10-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
This is an update to my previous post with more information. At this point, this information should be stable, and if someone would volunteer to make a wiki page from this email, I would appreciate your effort. For those of you with fdev accounts, fdev is now fully operational. fdev is now a for

[Foresight-devel] Re: fdev maintenance update

2010-10-06 Thread Michael K. Johnson
As discussed on foresight-devel, this plan is now underway. On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 10:28:02AM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > I've changed the plan a bit. The remaining plan, in case anyone > is interested in what I'll be doing: ... > * Test email from fdev [DONE]

[Foresight-devel] Re: packagekit

2010-09-23 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 03:43:32AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > actually, after comparing old versions of the code, at least for system > updates, it aparently never did that. > > http://github.com/sgp/PackageKit/blob/6679c05980b5aec8ac8a6f6454c2bddce68c3c14/backends/conary/helpers/conaryBackend.py

[Foresight-devel] Re: packagekit

2010-09-22 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 05:14:29AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:59:15PM -0400, Michael K. Johnson wrote: > > What packagekit does should continue to work on conary 2.2; the > > old interfaces remain. > > ok. i sort of expected that, but it is m

[Foresight-devel] Re: packagekit

2010-09-21 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 02:27:50AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote: > unfortunately, we'll have to rewrite the pckagekit-conary backend > completely for conary 2.2 which has been redesigned to work quite > differently on how it does updates. Well... What packagekit does should continue to work on conary

[Foresight-devel] Re: bzr/git/hg/svn bash command completion now baked in

2010-09-14 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 03:39:41PM +0800, Jesse Zhang wrote: > It can also be put in /etc/bashrc, but I think /etc/skel/.bashrc is better. I agree. This way there's no question of whether they slow down starting system bash scripts, and it's easy for each user to control whether to use the comple

[Foresight-devel] Re: fdev maintenance update

2010-09-03 Thread Michael K. Johnson
I've changed the plan a bit. The remaining plan, in case anyone is interested in what I'll be doing: * Set up database dumps on foresight-commits (in addition to full backup from streaming mirror) [DONE] * Convert the filesystem that will hold the local foresight-commits content store from ex

[Foresight-devel] Re: Building on fdev

2010-09-03 Thread Michael K. Johnson
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 02:01:53PM +0200, Bertrand Juglas wrote: > As all the software components installed seems publicly available, > would it be possible for me to setup such a build cluster also ? Yes. In fact, one of the things I'm doing as part of setting up this cluster is writing some doc

[Foresight-devel] Building on fdev

2010-09-02 Thread Michael K. Johnson
This is an update to my previous post with more information. For those of you with fdev accounts, it is now OK to use fdev. There are a few things to keep in mind. * fdev is now a foresight-based system. This means, among other things, that the packaged conary/rmake contexts are available. R

[Foresight-devel] Building on fdev

2010-09-01 Thread Michael K. Johnson
Since António's build cluster is down, I'm delaying additional fdev maintenance, because the fdev cluster is working now. Be aware of two temporary things -- both of these issues are temporary because we are halfway through the transition to foresight-commits. We will be able to remove these work

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