Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Scott Robison wrote: > Just watched the interview at http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/320 ... good > job! I can't believe DRH didn't drop my name, but I'll forgive him this > time. {snicker} Partly unrelated, and quite old, but there's another interesting interview

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Kelly Dean on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:52:28 +: > Yes, a badly-behaving one. That's why I said the network probably > dropped some packets. But I used HTTPS, so the problems the proxy > could have introduced would be no more than dropped packets, and bogus > TCP resets (which SS

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > Indeed, the mtime (available directly) and size (available indirectly, via > a join) are quick checks, but "can one really be certain?" (i'm largely > playing Devil's Advocate here.) > True. Would be worth knowing what git does (and Hg (and m

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Ron W wrote: > Does the check-out DB record the mtime and size of the files in the > check-out? If so, you have at least some defence against false negatives. > Indeed, the mtime (available directly) and size (available indirectly, via a join) are quick checks, bu

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Andreas Kupries > wrote: >> >> I.e. the command implementation would have to detect the unchanged >> files on update and skip them. >> > > Which would almost certainly once in a blue moon, as a side-effect of

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Andreas Kupries wrote: > Ok, is that something which can be fixed by rewriting key pieces of > SQL and/or C ? > There's no current way (other than the new vtable) to get the files for a given version via SQL, so that'd have to be done in conjunction with manifest

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Andreas Kupries
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 03:21:07PM -0800, bch wrote: >> The mtime/stat(2) stress is expensive because it's a order(n) >> operation, but better than any other validation (checksumming) method >> -- is git not subject to similar performance

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 03:21:07PM -0800, bch wrote: > The mtime/stat(2) stress is expensive because it's a order(n) > operation, but better than any other validation (checksumming) method > -- is git not subject to similar performance hits ? Does it have a > diff't method to verify integrity, or d

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread bch
The mtime/stat(2) stress is expensive because it's a order(n) operation, but better than any other validation (checksumming) method -- is git not subject to similar performance hits ? Does it have a diff't method to verify integrity, or does it punt on that front because of guarantees from elsewher

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 07:29:53PM +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: > The number of files is the primary factor, if i'm not sorely mistaken. Correct, but not in the way you expect :) For day to day operation, the most annoying part is "fossil update", which rewrites the mtime table completely. If you ha

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Baruch Burstein
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:34 PM, bch wrote: > Time to collect information on the weak/missing parts and either add > them to the comments of FLOSS Weekly, get Leo to publish an addendum > note, or publish an addendum on fossil-scm.org w/ link to original > interview. > I would be curious to know

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Warren Young wrote: > Fossil does an O(N) scan over the entire DB as an extra integrity check, > on the assumption that the filesystem may not be reliable. > The N potentially has another multiplier factor depending on how many deltas it has to weed through to get

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:16 AM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: >"Fossil does not perform well with very large repo's or histories > 15 > years." >How is the performance hit quantified? 1day or 1hour / 1GB repo / commit? Fossil does an O(N) scan over the entire DB as an extra integrity check, on

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:16 PM, wrote: > 2. I was hoping for a followup question to: >"Fossil does not perform well with very large repo's or histories > 15 > years." >How is the performance hit quantified? 1day or 1hour / 1GB repo / > commit? >What is the limiting factor? > Is it

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread sky5walk
Yes, always interesting to hear from Dr Hipp. 1. I had not considered fossil all push/pull. 2. I was hoping for a followup question to: "Fossil does not perform well with very large repo's or histories > 15 years." How is the performance hit quantified? 1day or 1hour / 1GB repo / commit? W

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:34 PM, bch wrote: > Time to collect information on the weak/missing parts and either add > them to the comments of FLOSS Weekly, get Leo to publish an addendum > note, or publish an addendum on fossil-scm.org w/ link to original > interview. @Richard: https://www.fossi

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Jungle Boogie
Dear Richard, From: Richard Hipp Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:52:41 -0500 To: Fossil SCM user's discussion Subject: Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview On 1/8/15, Baruch Burstein wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Scott Robison wrote: Just watche

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread bch
On 1/8/15, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 1/8/15, Baruch Burstein wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Scott Robison >> wrote: >> >>> Just watched the interview at http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/320 ... >>> good job! I can't believe DRH didn't drop my name, but I'll forgive him >>> this time. {

Re: [fossil-users] Automatically changing ticket resolution

2015-01-08 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Ron Aaron wrote: > Is there any way to have fossil change the ticket resolution to 'fixed' > when I change the status to 'fixed'? > In Administration, in Ticket Config, edit the Edit Ticket page to modify the TH1 code.

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Hipp
On 1/8/15, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Richard Hipp on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:52:41 -0500: > >> My text editor, written ~20 years ago in Tk3.6, is now uploaded to >> http://www.fossil-scm.org/e.txt - > > The server keeps closing the connection when trying to get this file. > Permission prob

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:52:41 -0500: > My text editor, written ~20 years ago in Tk3.6, is now uploaded to > http://www.fossil-scm.org/e.txt - The server keeps closing the connection when trying to get this file. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400054aea5d2 _

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Richard Hipp
On 1/8/15, Baruch Burstein wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Scott Robison > wrote: > >> Just watched the interview at http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/320 ... >> good job! I can't believe DRH didn't drop my name, but I'll forgive him >> this time. {snicker} >> >> Oh, and I'm always lookin

[fossil-users] Automatically changing ticket resolution

2015-01-08 Thread Ron Aaron
Is there any way to have fossil change the ticket resolution to 'fixed' when I change the status to 'fixed'? I end up doing two changes every single time.  I realize one may want to reopen a 'fixed' bug, but in most cases, when I mark something as 'fixed' I mean it..

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Baruch Burstein
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:55 AM, Scott Robison wrote: > Just watched the interview at http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/320 ... > good job! I can't believe DRH didn't drop my name, but I'll forgive him > this time. {snicker} > > Oh, and I'm always looking for a good text editor. Show us what you've

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-08 Thread Kelly Dean
Whoever kept trying and failing to download my fossil-src files using MSIE 8.0 an hour ago, and only got 153600 bytes each time... try a better browser. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-

Re: [fossil-users] Misleading report that clone finished

2015-01-08 Thread Kelly Dean
Andy Bradford wrote: > Any chance you can use --httptrace when cloning with whatever is causing > this problem? --httptrace will leave behind a handful of .txt files > beginning with http- which have the requests and replies Fossil makes. Problem not reproducible at the moment. >> -rw-r--r--

Re: [fossil-users] FLOSS interview

2015-01-08 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Scott Robison > wrote: > >> Just watched the interview at http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/320 ... >> good job! >> > > FYI: the interview itself starts at minute 7. > Be prepared to pause for a laugh at minute