Re: [fossil-users] Cannot update to latest fossil

2017-04-11 Thread Ron Aaron
I know how I can get the latest version; but I am quite concerned that if I do update my system, my users will be unable to sync unless they also go through that process. I don't think it should be the case that I cannot sync to a repo after an upgrade.  W

Re: [fossil-users] Cannot update to latest fossil

2017-04-11 Thread jungle boogie
On 04/11/2017 09:08 PM, Ron Aaron wrote: My current fossil is "This is fossil version 1.37 [df1205bb3a] 2016-11-07 11:26:26 UTC", not such an old version. Download binaries or source from here: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/uv/download.html This will get you caught up with the sha3 ch

[fossil-users] Cannot update to latest fossil

2017-04-11 Thread Ron Aaron
My current fossil is "This is fossil version 1.37 [df1205bb3a] 2016-11-07 11:26:26 UTC", not such an old version. When I try to update to the latest fossil trunk, I get: Autosync: https://fossil-scm.org/ Round-trips: 1 Artifacts sent: 0 received: 0 unknown command: [igot] Rou

[fossil-users] 1st Call For Papers - 24th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2017)

2017-04-11 Thread akupries
Hello Fossil Users, fyi ... 24th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2017) http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2017/ October 16 - 20, 2017 Crowne Plaza Houston River Oaks 2712 Southwest Freeway, 77098 Houston, Texas, USA Important Dates: Abstracts and proposals due August 21, 2017 Notification to autho

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Ross Berteig
On 4/11/2017 3:24 PM, Thomas wrote: This is actually one of the sources I based my exclusion list on. I added other files too. I replaced all # characters at the beginning of each line with semicolons, extracted the files like [Tt]umbs.db to Thumbs.db and thumbs.db, saved it, and let my batch f

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Ross Berteig
On 4/11/2017 3:24 PM, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 23:09, Ross Berteig wrote: On 4/10/2017 11:48 AM, Thomas wrote: Actually, I got a batch file that reads the file filter settings from another file and creates the binary-glob and the ignore-glob files on the fly before an addremove and a comm

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Kees Nuyt
[Default] On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:25:31 +0100, Thomas wrote: >On 2017-04-11 21:04, Ross Berteig wrote: >> The fossil addremove command is a convenience command that scans the >> tree, obeying some of the glob settings, and applies fossil add and >> fossil forget command as needed to make the list

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-04-11 22:51, Scott Robison wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Scott Robison >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: add --ignoreIgno

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 23:09, Ross Berteig wrote: On 4/10/2017 11:48 AM, Thomas wrote: Actually, I got a batch file that reads the file filter settings from another file and creates the binary-glob and the ignore-glob files on the fly before an addremove and a commit (crlf-glob is not created and only c

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 22:51, Scott Robison wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Scott Robison wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: add --ignoreIgnore unmanaged files matching patterns from the comma separated l

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Ross Berteig
On 4/10/2017 11:48 AM, Thomas wrote: Actually, I got a batch file that reads the file filter settings from another file and creates the binary-glob and the ignore-glob files on the fly before an addremove and a commit (crlf-glob is not created and only contains an asterisk now). Why do this

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 22:21, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 22:01, Scott Robison wrote: I was thinking about that earlier (well, a warning, not an error, which presumes you can't continue). Then the questions I put above came into my mind so I didn't bring it up. What wo

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread David Mason
I've been using fossil for several years now, so when I set up a new fossil my first operation is to copy over an existing .fossil-settings and commit, so I haven't been exposed to this problem for a while. I certainly remember when I first used it that it did some unexpected things. Perhaps if th

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Scott Robison wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Thomas wrote: >> On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: >> >> add >>--ignoreIgnore unmanaged files matching >> patterns from the comma separated list of >>

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: >> >> On 2017-04-11 22:01, Scott Robison wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking about that earlier (well, a warning, not an error, >>> which presumes you can't continue). Then the questions I put above >>> came into my mind

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-04-11 22:01, Scott Robison wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:31 PM, David Mason wrote: >>> >>> I think --ignore should give an error if the --ignore matches a file >>> already >>> in the repository. The current behaviour is clearly so

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-04-11 19:34, Scott Robison wrote: >> >> No, I try to explain why what you see isn't a design flaw, and >> apparently fail. But I'll keep trying! > > > Since I've never heard of any software that would not ignore files it is > told to ignore

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 22:11, Thomas wrote: On 2017-04-11 22:01, Scott Robison wrote: I was thinking about that earlier (well, a warning, not an error, which presumes you can't continue). Then the questions I put above came into my mind so I didn't bring it up. What would you suggest calling the command?

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 22:01, Scott Robison wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:31 PM, David Mason wrote: I think --ignore should give an error if the --ignore matches a file already in the repository. The current behaviour is clearly somewhat ambiguous. ... I was thinking about that earlier (well, a wa

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 19:34, Scott Robison wrote: No, I try to explain why what you see isn't a design flaw, and apparently fail. But I'll keep trying! Since I've never heard of any software that would not ignore files it is told to ignore you're going to have a hard time to convince me ;-) Source

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:31 PM, David Mason wrote: > > On 11 April 2017 at 14:34, Scott Robison wrote: >> >> No, it is an explicit command clearly stating the user's desire for >> exclusion of these files *that are not already under source control*. >> The fact that the user does not remember or

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread David Mason
On 11 April 2017 at 14:34, Scott Robison wrote: > No, it is an explicit command clearly stating the user's desire for > exclusion of these files *that are not already under source control*. > The fact that the user does not remember or did not realize they > issues conflicting commands does not m

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 21:04, Ross Berteig wrote: The fossil addremove command is a convenience command that scans the tree, obeying some of the glob settings, and applies fossil add and fossil forget command as needed to make the list of files now in the repository consistent with the settings and the di

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Ross Berteig
On 4/11/2017 9:36 AM, Thomas wrote: I would like to emphasise that --ignore (or .fossil-settings\ignore-glob) is an _explicit_ command, clearly stating the user's desire for exlusion of these files, following the documentation. Silently ignoring this wish can't be the correct process. But t

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Scott Robison
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-04-11 05:22, Scott Robison wrote: >> >> Perhaps it should be documented, but I don't think it is a bug. It is >> the software doing the job it was originally told to do (track versions >> of a file) instead of doing the job it was subsequen

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 10:02, Mark Janssen wrote: That's not a security hole at all. Once a file was added, ignoring it will not remove past version from the repository. History in fossil is immutable. If you inadvertently added a file which shouldn't be there you should shun it instead. The way I under

[fossil-users] Fwd: Re: Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
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Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 05:22, Scott Robison wrote: Perhaps it should be documented, but I don't think it is a bug. It is the software doing the job it was originally told to do (track versions of a file) instead of doing the job it was subsequently told to do (ignore untracked files with a given glob). F

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Thomas
On 2017-04-11 10:02, Mark Janssen wrote: That's not a security hole at all. Once a file was added, ignoring it will not remove past version from the repository. History in fossil is immutable. If you inadvertently added a file which shouldn't be there you should shun it instead. It is very well

Re: [fossil-users] expected defaults of a fossil build?

2017-04-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:44 AM, ng0 wrote: > I'm updating our Fossil package to the 2.x series, and I saw a message > about json support being disabled. > Is this something users of fossil expect to be enabled when they use it? > json support has never been enabled by default. -- - steph

[fossil-users] expected defaults of a fossil build?

2017-04-11 Thread ng0
Hi, I'm updating our Fossil package to the 2.x series, and I saw a message about json support being disabled. Is this something users of fossil expect to be enabled when they use it? Our policy is to follow upstream as closely as possible, I'm not a user of fossil myself at the moment. -- PGP and

Re: [fossil-users] Issue with ignore-glob

2017-04-11 Thread Mark Janssen
That's not a security hole at all. Once a file was added, ignoring it will not remove past version from the repository. History in fossil is immutable. If you inadvertently added a file which shouldn't be there you should shun it instead. On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Thomas wrote: > On 2017-0