Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-30 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 3/14/15, Ron W wrote: > > > > The key difference is that, in git, the puller can force the in coming > > commits to be remapped into branches of their own. That is, I could > commit > > my changes to "trunk" in my clone, then when the oth

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-17 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 16 March 2015 at 23:08, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:01:21PM +0100, mario wrote: >> "Social network" is a nice metaphor. But it's also just a side-effect >> of having a data silo. > > Actually, I think that's the far bigger item. GitHub has managed > something which S

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread mario
Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:02:18 +0200 John Found : > > IMO, everything is in reverse. GitHub is not popular, because Git is > great SCM. Git is popular because is used by GitHub! > > Notice that GitHub is not only repository hosting. It is a social > network for developers. That is why it is popular. An

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:01:21PM +0100, mario wrote: > "Social network" is a nice metaphor. But it's also just a side-effect > of having a data silo. Actually, I think that's the far bigger item. GitHub has managed something which SourceForge never had -- a stable service. > Most developer i

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Vikrant Chaudhary
> i, for one, am glad that _our_ Benevolent Dictator behaves like an empathic > human being in public. I second this statement. :-) Cheers. - Vikrant On 14 March 2015 at 18:43, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Graeme Pietersz > wrote: >> >> There is a long and interesting

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:45 AM, John Found wrote: > > The first step towards such achievement is to allow all Fossil users to > exists in > one common username space. > OpenID authentication could help to make this without big effort. > OpenID support would be a nice addition. But, even in an e

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 14 March 2015 at 18:48, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:05:07 -0400: > >> Am I wrong to think that clicking through the changes in a project >> (not necessarily from the beginning, but from some signification >> event, say the most recent rele

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Vikrant Chaudhary
>> But, for example fossil can provide some way to connect the stand alone >> repositories and developers in some kind of distributed peer-to-peer network >> and >> to provide some interaction - I don't know - maybe some voting, messaging, >> clone tracking, collaborative environment, pull request

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread John Found
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:02:18 +0200 John Found wrote: > But, for example fossil can provide some way to connect the stand alone > repositories and developers in some kind of distributed peer-to-peer network > and > to provide some interaction - I don't know - maybe some voting, messaging, > clo

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-15 Thread Ron W
On Saturday, March 14, 2015, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 3/14/15, Ron W > wrote: > > > > The key difference is that, in git, the puller can force the in coming > > commits to be remapped into branches of their own. That is, I could > commit > > my changes to "trunk" in my clone, then when the other

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/14/15, Ron W wrote: > > The key difference is that, in git, the puller can force the in coming > commits to be remapped into branches of their own. That is, I could commit > my changes to "trunk" in my clone, then when the other person pulls my > changes, she/he can tell git to map my changes

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:28 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: my understanding was that a github "fork" is nothing but a clone and not > "really" part of the original project, no? so it really is not comparable > to a branch (be it `git' or `fossil'), no? > Almost the same as pulling from a clone of a

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Ron W
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Graeme Pietersz wrote: > The advantage is that anyone can create a Github fork of a public > project, work on it, and then submit pull requests, without ever being > given commit access to the original repo. You can have untrusted > collaborators and review all t

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:05:07 -0400: > Am I wrong to think that clicking through the changes in a project > (not necessarily from the beginning, but from some signification > event, say the most recent release) in chronological order is > something that peo

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Reimer Behrends
Richard Hipp wrote: It seems like every check-in information page has a "parent" link. But I can't find any "children" links. What am I missing? When reviewing the changes to a project, how to you move forward in time? Internally, Git stores only the child->parent relation, but not the paren

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Graeme Pietersz wrote: > There is a long and interesting discussion between Linux Torvalds and > others about the merits of the Github approach here: > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17#issuecomment-5654674 If that can be called a discussion. It's Lin

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 14/03/15 17:55, jungle Boogie wrote: On 14 March 2015 at 05:07, Graeme Pietersz wrote: On 14/03/15 15:04, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: really a test case for "how does github feel to a newbie". answer: awkward, to say the very least. FW

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread jungle Boogie
On 14 March 2015 at 05:07, Graeme Pietersz wrote: > > > On 14/03/15 15:04, Stephan Beal wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, j. van den hoff > wrote: >> >> really a test case for "how does github feel to a newbie". answer: >> awkward, to say the very least. > > > FWIW i have had to use it

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 14/03/15 15:04, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, j. van den hoff mailto:veedeeh...@googlemail.com>> wrote: really a test case for "how does github feel to a newbie". answer: awkward, to say the very least. FWIW i have had to use it a dozen times and still fee

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread John Found
IMO, everything is in reverse. GitHub is not popular, because Git is great SCM. Git is popular because is used by GitHub! Notice that GitHub is not only repository hosting. It is a social network for developers. That is why it is popular. And every SCM used in such popular social network will beco

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Gour
Stephan Beal writes: > a git fork can be pulled (via a "pull request") into the original just like > merging a branch, so the the effect is similar (not identical). These days most of the FOSS is hosted at github and for someone wanting to contribute to usual scenario is: 1) clone original repo

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:28 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: > really a test case for "how does github feel to a newbie". answer: > awkward, to say the very least. FWIW i have had to use it a dozen times and still feel that way. > this is quite different to first time encounter with `fossil'. so

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:18:35 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: I tried going to the "network" graph (https://github.com/mackyle/sqlite/network) which seems similar to the Fossil timeline graph, only sideways. I needed to use github only o

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > I tried going to the "network" graph > (https://github.com/mackyle/sqlite/network) which seems similar to the > Fossil timeline graph, only sideways. The network is primarily intended to show fork-related relationships. i.e. whose fork was

[fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-13 Thread Richard Hipp
I periodically go to sites like GitHub looking for ideas on how Fossil might be improved. So just now I was browsing the SQLite mirror that somebody has put there. And I asked the simple question: How did this project start? (I already know the answer, of course, but I'm curious to see how someb