Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> >> http://chronicleoutdoors.com/wp-content/gallery/cougar-photo/mountainlion.jpg >> >> >> I'll see what I can do about enhancing Fossil with an "approaching puma" >> warning (warnin

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > http://chronicleoutdoors.com/wp-content/gallery/cougar-photo/mountainlion.jpg > > I'll see what I can do about enhancing Fossil with an "approaching puma" > warning (warnings that a fork has occurred) and a "shoot puma with sidearm" > comma

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric Junkermann
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:36:50 +0100, Ramon Ribó wrote: > >There is no rollback, an commit has been done. I >suppose you mean > >to reverse the commit > > I know it is not there. This is exactly the reason for me to write this > email. Sorry for being less than clear - I mean that a rollback is n

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Ramon Ribó
>There is no rollback, an commit has been done. I >suppose you mean >to reverse the commit I know it is not there. This is exactly the reason for me to write this email. My proposal would of course require some kind of rollback or undo for the commit that would be automatically executed when dete

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:48:59 +0200, John Found wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:22:28 -0800 > "Michael L. Barrow" wrote: > > > > > Please stop trolling > > > > I am not trolling. I am prepared to believe you but I can see how tone and content might make people believe that. > It is "Redu

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:35:11 +0100, Ramon Ribó wrote: > In my opinion, the solution is more simple. Instead of: > > - sync > - stop if would fork > - commit > - sync > > The procedure should be: > > - commit > - sync > - rollback if would fork There is no rollback, an commit has been done. I

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Matt Welland wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> >> >> Curious response. Did you intend to be insulting? I'm working with a >> bunch of very smart people >> > > N

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Ramon Ribó
In my opinion, the solution is more simple. Instead of: - sync - stop if would fork - commit - sync The procedure should be: - commit - sync - rollback if would fork Ramon Ribó El 13/01/2013 13:11, "Richard Hipp" va escriure: > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Matt Welland wrote: > >> >>

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Matt Welland wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > Curious response. Did you intend to be insulting? I'm working with a bunch > of very smart people > No insult intended. It's the smart people who have the greatest tendency t

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread j. v. d. hoff
just my 2 cents: 1. I agree that it should be easier (or occuring even automatically?) to merge such random forks. the `monotone' example was given. `hg' is another obvious one doing that painlessly. 2. I agree that improvement of the CLI is not given enough attention in comparison to the

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Matt Welland wrote: > >> This is with regards to the problem described here: >> >> >> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/pipermail/fossil-users/2008-February/60.html >> >> We are seeing on the order of

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread Michael L. Barrow
On 01/12/2013 09:48 PM, John Found wrote: I am not trolling. It is "Reductio ad absurdum" that proves D. Richard Hipp is wrong in his statement. Solving technical problems by high-handed methods is wrong by definition. The source is available, so you should feel free to download and add in t

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread John Found
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:22:28 -0800 "Michael L. Barrow" wrote: > > Please stop trolling > I am not trolling. It is "Reductio ad absurdum" that proves D. Richard Hipp is wrong in his statement. Solving technical problems by high-handed methods is wrong by definition. -- John Found http

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread Michael L. Barrow
On 01/12/2013 09:22 PM, John Found wrote: If this is the case, I whould suggest better solution. Only 3..5 cases in a year are not enough to train the team enough and to increase the situation awareness of the people. Isn't it better to make fossil to fork randomly with probability, let say, 1:

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread John Found
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:31:26 -0500 Richard Hipp wrote: > I contend that this points up issues with your development process, not > with Fossil. If your developers do not notice that a fork has occurred for > days, then they are doing "heads down" programming. They are not > maintaining situatio

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread K
on Jan 12, 2013, Richard Hipp wrote: > > >On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > >Loss of situational awareness is a leading cause of airplane crashes and >medical >errors. >Here's another example of loss of situational awareness, which seems likely to >result >in an adver

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread Richard Hipp
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > Loss of situational awareness is a leading cause of airplane crashes and > medical errors. Here's another example of loss of situational awareness, which seems likely to result in an adverse outcome: http://chronicleoutdoors.com/wp-conten

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-12 Thread Richard Hipp
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Matt Welland wrote: > This is with regards to the problem described here: > > > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/pipermail/fossil-users/2008-February/60.html > > We are seeing on the order of 3-5 of these a year in our heaviest hit > repos. While this may seem