Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-19 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > For the sake of clarity, I'd like to ask that a mean is given to > recognize that a sub-chapter is a sub-chapter rather than a chapter. > If not in the name that we use within ourselves, at least on meta and > internal pages. For now, I

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Snow
Florence Devouard wrote: > For example, on meta, Wikimedia NYC is listed as chapters, not > subchapters. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City. And > the name does not clarify the difference either (it could have been > mandatory that names used be of the type Wikimedia + Countr

[Foundation-l] Board resolution on committees

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Snow
Another item from the board meeting was reviewing the structure of Wikimedia committees. We've passed a resolution that defines these a little more, as well as dissolving a number that were created in the past but no longer function. The full text is at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resol

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

2009-01-19 Thread Florence Devouard
Michael Snow wrote: > I've been assembling my notes from last week's board meeting to pass > along. The first set of items I have to report is business from the > chapters committee. All of these resolutions have been posted on the > foundation website. > > We approved two new chapters, and the

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread Ray Saintonge
H wrote: > Beta wikiversity is a hub for multiligual cooperation and the > incubator is just part of it. > The proposed multilingual wikibooks is for hosting books which cannot > find home comfortably in any language edition. > > It is fitting to have, for example, the link from a page in > cs:Wik

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
Beta wikiversity is a hub for multiligual cooperation and the incubator is just part of it. The proposed multilingual wikibooks is for hosting books which cannot find home comfortably in any language edition. It is fitting to have, for example, the link from a page in cs:Wikiversity to Beta:Wikiv

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian
There cannot be community consensus if the developers are unwilling to seriously consider alternate technological solutions to the ones they come up with. That is a key piece of the broken process -- developers of SMW have presented their ideas to the community, but whether or not there was ever co

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-19 Thread Pharos
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > This isn't directly related to the board meeting, but I want to pause > for a moment to share some ideas. Not all of them are mine, quite a bit > of this is directly from the chapters. > > The Swedish chapter had the idea to declare 2009 The Y

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Marcus Buck
Brian hett schreven: > There is only one thing stopping it from going live in my opinion - developer > enthusiasm. What about community consensus? Marcus Buck ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian
Gerard, I'm not sure I understood the full context of your e-mail. There is only one thing stopping it from going live in my opinion - developer enthusiasm. I don't think thats how things are supposed to work. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I think it is correc

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I think it is correct. There is also nothing in there stopping Semantic MediaWiki from going live. Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/19 Brian > This community, which takes quite a bit of effort to communicate with, > effort which I have not seen from the development team: > > > Any changes to the

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian
This community, which takes quite a bit of effort to communicate with, effort which I have not seen from the development team: > Any changes to the software must be gradual and reversible. We need to make > sure that any changes contribute positively to the community, as ultimately > determined by

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian
To be clear, I still consider the process to be broken, and I think it would help if there were more transparency there. More transparency means features do not get implemented just because someone with the keys thinks its a good idea, but because they spec'd the feature out formally and there was

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian
Domas, that is an unfair characterization of my e-mails, which I do not believe you have read in full. I have only advocated SMW + SF as a method of allowing users to extend the user interface. I am not interested in SMW for "academic data crunching." DBPedia is wonderful project for people with

Re: [Foundation-l] Domains

2009-01-19 Thread Nemo_bis
Marcus Buck, 17/01/2009 18:28: > [.it at least redirects to Wikipedia]). But we don't control it, and we don't know how long the redirect will function (http://it.wikipedia.org/?diff=21089211&oldid=19470363). However, Wikimedia Italia spends over 270 €/year to control various domains. Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Both the multilingual Wikibooks and Wikiversity exist as a kind of Incubator. Given that the aim is to create the single language editions, it means a lot of double work. Not such a good idea imho. Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/19 H > And it would greatly facilitate interwiki traffics to hav

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
And it would greatly facilitate interwiki traffics to have a code for a multilingual site (e.g. for the betawikiversity: and the multilingual wikisource, and the proposed multilingual wikibooks). See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13334 H.

Re: [Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

2009-01-19 Thread H
And the renaming of zh-yue: to yue: (or at least the promised redirect) is long overdue (see [[bugzilla:8217]]). H. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-19 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hello Brian, thanks for all your insights, bashing and vocal support of your pet ideas. I understand, that SMW is academically interesting concept (though there're contradicting ideas in academia too, suggesting natural language processing as an alternative, and this seems where currently

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-19 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hello, On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > > The Swedish chapter had the idea to declare 2009 The Year of the > Picture, to put a concerted effort into adding images to the Wikimedia > Commons, along with using more illustrations in Wikipedia and elsewhere. > I think this is ab

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How wonderful, the WIkimedia Foundation adopts the Swedish idea to dedicate 2009 as the year of the picture. There is a lot that we can achieve when we put our mind to it. So let me tell you about some of our needs and of our low hanging fruits. ==Diversity== Some people say that we only need

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture

2009-01-19 Thread Andre Engels
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > I deal with this regularly in a professional capacity, this is what > stock photography firms are built on, and I can assure you that there is > no adequate freely licensed stock photography resource in the world. > Commons is the best there