Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Which is more likely to happen in some countries than others. Though, I do agree that it is a silly reason to oppose in light of his quite reasonable concessions. -Dan On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Muhammad Alsebaey wrote: > I would say the likelihood of him being the target of the Iranian >

Re: [Foundation-l] It.wiki wins the "Premiolino"!!

2009-02-10 Thread Nemo_bis
Thomas Dalton, 05/02/2009 18:00: > 2009/2/5 Frieda Brioschi : > >> Premiolino (which means "little award") is the ancient and most >> important italian journalistic award. >> it.wiki wins in the category "New media" for this reason: >> "(because) it's a great, open, accessible for everyone, demo

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread geni
2009/2/10 Petr Kadlec : > Maybe the copyright laws are living in the wrong century… In quite a few cases yes. US and Israeli law are kinda okay and common law based systems tend to work to an extent (partly because they are more open to what we would call rule lawyering. Treating films as a serie

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread Petr Kadlec
2009/2/10 geni : > Yeah that argument might work in about 1950. Actual real world > experience suggests that it doesn't work. The first problem you have > is that content doesn't stay in the same format if left to itself. For > example what format is this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gove

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread geni
2009/2/10 Anthony : > The text, of both the GPL and the GFDL, states the purpose of "or later" > quite clearly. > > "The Free Software Foundation may publish new, revised versions of the GNU > Free Documentation License from time to time. Such new versions will be > similar in spirit to the present

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:30 AM, geni wrote: > 2009/2/10 Anthony : > > That may be the case, but even if it is it still doesn't justify the > > relicensing that is currently taking place. The power to release content > > under new licenses should be (and is) held by the authors individually, > n

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread geni
2009/2/10 Anthony : > That may be the case, but even if it is it still doesn't justify the > relicensing that is currently taking place. The power to release content > under new licenses should be (and is) held by the authors individually, not > collectively. "Or later" was meant for minor changes

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing interim update

2009-02-10 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM, George Herbert wrote: > It's bizarre to me that people are so vehemently defending the GFDL when it > was always clearly not the right license from a mechanics point of view. Personally, I'm not defending the GFDL. In fact, I will make any reasonable effort to

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Muhammad Alsebaey
I would say the likelihood of him being the target of the Iranian govt is the same as him being kidnapped by some terror group and tortured for his access, which could happen in any country... On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Mido wrote: > it doesn't make any sense that one could think of such

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Mido
it doesn't make any sense that one could think of such a reason to oppose.if you trust his abilities and good reasoning, give him the extra tools to help as he's willing to do so. Also, he promised he won't do checkuser in Iranian projects which is the most critical power to misuse. this is a globa

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > But then I guess there alre already checkusers on fa.wp? Nope. Candidates were not able to get enough support; which has much more with the situation in the community than with anything else. At fa.wp candidates very rarely pass RfAs

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Ting Chen
geni wrote: > 2009/2/9 Ting Chen : > >> Surely is this a prejudice. Because there is no data that support such >> an assumption. In the eight years since the being of Wikipedia I don't >> know any such case happend on any Wikimedia project. >> >> Ting >> > > Prejudice? We know Iran's record

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> For a western government the cost of the PR mess is unlikely to > outweigh any benefits. There are also various other issues that mean > that such interference is unlikely (the CIA legally can't touch > wikipedia since it is US based and I doubt any other intelligence > agency wants to annoy the