Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hello Aryeh, Thanks a lot for your prompt and informative input. Obviously special thanks goes to Thomas Dalton for swift move for consultation. All other details are taken already to direct mailing between two chapters (Wikimedia UK/GB and Wikimedia UA) in order not to bother (or bore :) ) mail

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo : >> There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly >> to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted). > > It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a > complicated setup fo

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

Peter Gervai wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:05, wrote: >> Peter Gervai wrote: >> >>> Usually I do not get it why people choose NC licenses all the time >>> while there's usually a low probability to actually _lose_ money by >>> making it public. >>> >> This may come as a shock to you but its

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ? > > What for? > (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :) > > I meant for my post to be humours, but I failed to include my " :-) "! -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: ht

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ? What for? (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :) On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Cary Bass wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> Hi Andrew, >> >>> Could we take this offline and start a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > Hi Andrew, > >> Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion >> rather than doing this via an open mailing list. > > Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by > details. > > Pavlo Shevelo > How a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hi Andrew, > Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion rather than > doing this via an open mailing list. Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by details. Pavlo Shevelo On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > Hi Pavlo, > > I'm glad this is

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hi Pavlo, I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this to both chapters satisfaction. Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion rather than doing this via an open mailing lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

- "Nikola Smolenski" wrote: > > I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website > of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org > (disambiguation)." I've added a hatnote in the meantime redirecting users to UK-WP and WM-UA. -- Andrew Turve

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo : > There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly > to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted). It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a complicated setup for hosting multiple wikis, it may well be hard-coded that they a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

>> I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. > > I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to > direct our domain directly at their servers... Worth looking into. Please look into as move to own servers will not be in nearest weeks. As to the best of my understandi

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hi Pavlo, I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this rather - "Pavlo Shevelo" wrote: > From: "Pavlo Shevelo" > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo : >> ... At some point we will probably want to set >> up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated. > > I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to direct our domain directly at t

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

> ... At some point we will probably want to set > up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated. I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. Anyhow is it possible to have some explicit estimation about when "at some point" could happen? > It > might make sense to put a n

Re: [Foundation-l] new survey of digital collection copyrights

Preprint: http://www.ala.org/ala//mgrps/divs/acrl/publications/crljournal/preprints/Schlosser.pdf On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Relevant to the NPG et al discussion: > "Unless Otherwise Indicated: A Survey of Copyright Statements on > Digital Library Collections", by Mel

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[Foundation-l] new survey of digital collection copyrights

Relevant to the NPG et al discussion: "Unless Otherwise Indicated: A Survey of Copyright Statements on Digital Library Collections", by Melanie Schlosser. published in "College and Research Libraries", v.70(4), pp371-385 (July 2009). Unfortunately it's not freely available online, but if y

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009/7/22 Marco Chiesa : > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofilo wrote: >> Hello everybody; >> >> This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : >> >> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? >> > > I've noticed that http://www

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia-Canada] Canadian copyrights

Thanks for this reminder. I've been putting together a submission myself and I'd urge others to do the same. If you're not sure where to begin, michaelgeist.ca has some excellent discussion of where Canadian copyright law should be headed. In addition to individual submissions, what are the chance

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hoi, If you are going to solve this, then it is the cheapest not to wait. Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/22 Milos Rancic > Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem > with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for > Serbia is rs. It is interesting

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

> I'm sure there are several other cases as well. I'm quite sure that was the main reason to pick this issue up to this mailing list. It seems that it's high time to create some page on Meta to place whole list there and to collect there precedents how such issue were solved. On Wed, Jul 22, 20

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Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Yes same issue for Sinhala (of Sri Lanka) and the country code for Slovenia - SI or Burmese and Malaysia - MY or Virgin Islands and Vietnamese - VI. I'm sure there are several other cases as well. Mark On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language p

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for Serbia is rs. It is interesting that .sr code was one of the preferred codes for some Serbian sites for a long time: it is free and for a long time Serbia used

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Cruccone, I can confirm what you've said about Brazilian Portuguese, although I don't know that I'd characterise it as "a lot". Back in older times before there was much Breton content there, the domain was "squatted" by people who would have liked to have a separate WP for Brazilian Portuguese (i

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hi Jon, Thanks a lot for promt and informative (so valuable) input. Regarding > Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 language code standard and > The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166 standard for country codes, all WPs and all chapters have to do that very strictly and same way, aren't they (th

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofilo wrote: > Hello everybody; > > This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? > I've noticed that http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ redirects to http

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was > planning to do that myself a bit later). > > I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as > well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings > starting from > http://uk.

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 language code standard, where "uk" is the code for the Ukrainian language. The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166standard for country codes, and "ua" is the code for the country of Ukrai

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hello Teofilo, I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was planning to do that myself a bit later). I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings starting from http://uk.wikipedia.org vs. h

[Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

Hello everybody; This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad

Hoi, I was at the Tropenmuseum the other day .. they said that this "commercial" notion is old hat.. Sharing collections, engaging the public is what ensures the future of museums. So I am hopeful that the Tropenmuseum is right and will prove to be so. The thing is they do not need to be right ever