Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > Bot accounts will probably be excluded in the future, since they are > explicitly not allowed to vote. I think that it shouldn't be so complicated to do one "sort -u" over emails. As I said, some of my bots don't have bot flags and because of th

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Casey Brown
Keep in mind that this election didn't go off as well as it could have, we all know that, the important thing was getting the e-mails out before the vote ended. It was already too late, so it's better to get more people notified than less. It wasn't perfect, last year was better because there was

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the > board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send > untargetted mass emails - they are spam. Ah, I may imagine how your reaction would be in my case :) I have a

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread pbeaudette
My favorite is "Chief Handshaker". :) --Original Message-- From: Brian Sender: foundation-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List ReplyTo: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split Sent: Aug 8, 2009 8:5

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Brian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On 8/7/09 2:35 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > By containing the magic words "senior" and "architect" the proposed > > "Senior Software Architect" is, in my experience, not inconsistent > > with industry naming practice for the most important t

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread George Herbert
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Chad wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: >> >> * ensure that the developers have what they need and are coding smoothly >> > > Personally, I'm just waiting for Mediawiki to become self-aware and start > coding itself :) If SkyNet is PHP base

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread James Forrester
2009/8/9 Kat Walsh : > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > >> Now, if we really think of a _totally badass title_ before we get the >> business cards printed up I'm open to changing it, but honestly I like >> it and it fits the role I see for myself just fine. :) > > Or you could

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Somehow I'm not disappointed that we're having a problem trying to find a title to describe how incredibly awesome Brion is. Congrats. -Dan On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Jim Redmond wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 19:32, Kat Walsh > wrote: > >> Or you could have two sets of business cards. :-)

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Jim Redmond
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 19:32, Kat Walsh wrote: > Or you could have two sets of business cards. :-) > And here I was going to suggest a slashed title: "Senior Software Architect/Lead Hacker". (Maybe "Senior Software Architect/Sourceror" if he's the eighth son of an eighth son.) Congratulations

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Chad
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > * ensure that the developers have what they need and are coding smoothly > Personally, I'm just waiting for Mediawiki to become self-aware and start coding itself :) -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Kat Walsh
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Now, if we really think of a _totally badass title_ before we get the > business cards printed up I'm open to changing it, but honestly I like > it and it fits the role I see for myself just fine. :) Or you could have two sets of business card

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread geni
2009/8/7 Brion Vibber : > On 8/7/09 2:35 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> By containing the magic words "senior" and "architect" the proposed >> "Senior Software Architect" is, in my experience, not inconsistent >> with industry naming practice for the most important tech guru who >> isn't primarily a

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Pavlo Shevelo wrote: The list of users who have voted is available at https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17 Some names/nicks there appeared crossed (by horizontal line). Would somebody please explain what does it mean? Those that are grey out (or at least slightl

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Generally speaking, that means that the user appears to have voted more than once, or from more than one username on more than one project. The line denotes that vote has been struck. Philippe On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> The list of users who have voted is available

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
> The list of users who have voted is available at > https://wikimedia.spi-inc.org/index.php/Special:SecurePoll/list/17 Some names/nicks there appeared crossed (by horizontal line). Would somebody please explain what does it mean? 2009/8/8 Jon Harald Søby : > 2009/8/8 John Vandenberg > >> On S

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/8 Geoffrey Plourde : > Although I had already voted, I was not bothered by one tiny email reminding > me that I was eligible to vote. Thanks guys, hopefully this will get people > to the polls. If it was difficult to avoid emailing people that have already voted, I wouldn't mind, but I do

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Although I had already voted, I was not bothered by one tiny email reminding me that I was eligible to vote. Thanks guys, hopefully this will get people to the polls. From: Casey Brown To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:57:

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/8 Casey Brown : > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the >> board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send >> untargetted mass emails - they are spam. > > "telling me I am eligible" and "unt

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:42 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > Oh, I am not affronted. > > I am thrilled that the election committee decided that computer > engineers should be rewarded for their ingenuity by allowing their > fine opinion to be counted twice. > > This motivates me to write more bots for

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2009/8/8 John Vandenberg > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, private musings > wrote: > > No silly - it's a mistake! (don't be so grumpy. - or be aware that > this > > could come across as grumpy at least) > > > > I recall the grumbles when Greg sent something out last year or the year > > befo

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread effe iets anders
lolz 2009/8/8 Domas Mituzas > Hi! > > > And I have to assume that's primarily due to your > > efforts. > > > > Thanks Brion. Excellent work. > > Yes, thank you Brion! :) > > Domas > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Yes. And are doing so. Philippe On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:42 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > p.s. can the election committee ensure that votes from bot accounts > are not counted?? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscrib

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hi! > And I have to assume that's primarily due to your > efforts. > > Thanks Brion. Excellent work. Yes, thank you Brion! :) Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the > board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send > untargetted mass emails - they are spam. Well, one good thing came out of it. I didn't receive such an ema

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Now, if we really think of a _totally badass title_ before we get the > business cards printed up I'm open to changing it, but honestly I like > it and it fits the role I see for myself just fine. :) Ah, hi Brion. I didn't realise you were on

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > Brion is also engaged in a > significant amount of interaction with external communities... Just so happens I got my first view of Brion only yesterday. Here he is giving a talk to Google staff: seems like a lovely, down-to-earth guy. Inform

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Cormac Lawler wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:05 AM, wrote: > >> I'm sorry you got an email that bothered you.  Trust me, we try to make >> sure no one is bothered by them.  Sometimes people fall through the cracks, >> and I'm sorry that was the case here and in a

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Cormac Lawler wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:05 AM, wrote: I'm sorry you got an email that bothered you. Trust me, we try to make sure no one is bothered by them. Sometimes people fall through the cracks, and I'm sorry that was the case here and in a few other cases. I'm supposedly one w

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Huib!
Hello, As far as I know the email users function doesn't show the emailadres to people so you could email me with that function and you still doesn't have my emailadres :) Best regards, Huib ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Cormac Lawler
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:05 AM, wrote: > I'm sorry you got an email that bothered you. Trust me, we try to make > sure no one is bothered by them. Sometimes people fall through the cracks, > and I'm sorry that was the case here and in a few other cases. I'm supposedly one who fell through the

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Huib! wrote: Hello, Aren't we working to wrong way, I think it should be better to let people opt-in, because we didn't release our e-mail addresses for this kind of spam. I use different emails for private / mailinglist use and I didn't give permission to use my private email. Can I just p

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Philippe Beaudette wrote: Yeah, that one's noted for the post-mortem. I'm going to add some notes for "future generation" that send this in 2 years time based on my experience sending this last year (and also thinking about it this year) before I forget. I'm sure this year's committee & Werdna

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
John Vandenberg wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, private musings wrote: No silly - it's a mistake! (don't be so grumpy. - or be aware that this could come across as grumpy at least) I recall the grumbles when Greg sent something out last year or the year before, and feel the same abou

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM, private musings wrote: > No silly - it's a mistake! (don't be so grumpy. - or be aware that this > could come across as grumpy at least) > > I recall the grumbles when Greg sent something out last year or the year > before, and feel the same about this as that -

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Kwan Ting Chan
Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, This is a huge improvement over the last election where not all projects were targeted for this type of mail. As a result there is less bias in the system. So you can opt out if you do not want to receive an e-mail for the next election. Huh? All eligible voters who

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread private musings
No silly - it's a mistake! (don't be so grumpy. - or be aware that this could come across as grumpy at least) I recall the grumbles when Greg sent something out last year or the year before, and feel the same about this as that - the folk sending the email are using an imperfect system, but ov

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Huib!
Hello, Aren't we working to wrong way, I think it should be better to let people opt-in, because we didn't release our e-mail addresses for this kind of spam. I use different emails for private / mailinglist use and I didn't give permission to use my private email. Its kind of stupid that this

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:34 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> I had forgotten that my bot gave me a second vote. > > Is that a joke? My bot, which has a bot flag on two projects, was sent an email asking it to vote. Is that a joke? -- John Vande

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:34 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > I had forgotten that my bot gave me a second vote. Is that a joke? -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Foundation-l] Board election spamming

2009-08-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Meno 25 wrote: > and also please don't send e-mails to bot accounts. I found that email quite helpful. I had forgotten that my bot gave me a second vote. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/8/7 Gregory Maxwell: > >> It's not bad to have an internal pattern, but I think it's more >> important to match the practices in industry. >> By containing the magic words "senior" and "architect" the proposed >> "Senior Software Architect" is, in my experience, not in