1. What about our mirrors and forks and reusers; do they get the same
rights? How about users who want to download media dumps?
This is at least two different problems, one is reuse when the content
is free and the other is reuse when the content is free due to an
agreement. For the moment
I stumbled upon this too during discussions with institutions in Norway,
it seems like the number of times some material is accessed is a very
interesting selling point. It is although not necessary to store the
image any specific place for this, it is the actual statistics that is
interesting.
Yesterday, new projects were opened:
* Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
* Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
* Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
* Acehnese Wikipedia (http://ace.wikipedia.org/)
* Turkish Wikinews (http://tr.wikinews.org/)
Thanks for the information. I'll spread the word to Acehnese community.
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From: Milos Rancic
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Subject: [Foundation-l] New projects opened
When the Vector skin became available, I tried it on my home wiki,
pt.wikipedia, and noticed that a great deal of its interface was still in
English. So I went to translatewiki.net and translated the remaining strings
to Portuguese. Then I waited, and waited.. and I am waiting until today, and
the
Aggregated statistics for a complete GLAM is interesting, but it seems
like they ask about usage stats and metadata about individual items.
For example it is _very_ interesting that a otherwise rather anonymous
photo from 1890 from the GallriNOR-collection is used in an article
about Oat that has
Hoi,
We do have those kinds of statistics already.. aggregating is important
because such an overall numbers can be considered a KPI while an individual
statistic is interesting.
I learned that KPI is key performance indicator ... :) I still have to think
what the acronym is there for
Thanks,
Waldir Pimenta wrote:
I understand why it was chosen not to always run bleeding edge versions of
the software on the live Wikimedia wikis. But the LocalisationUpdate was
created precisely as a workaround to this, i.e, to allow updating the
localisation
without needing to update the software.
Hoi,
Why then is svn up not run every day on the Wikimedia Foundation's servers
??
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/8/13 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org
Waldir Pimenta wrote:
I understand why it was chosen not to always run bleeding edge versions
of
the software on the live Wikimedia
Hoi,
The problem with svn up is that it does not take into account that the
software run in production is not the same version that exists in SVN.
Consequently you could update messages that are no longer the same. What
LocalisationUpdate does is verify if the message in English in SVN is the
same
Tim Starling tstarl...@... writes:
The LocalisationUpdate extension is slow, with a significant
performance loss per page view due to DB queries,
I can't reproduce that locally. After installing LocalisationUpdate and visiting
a few pages, I get:
LocalisationCache::isExpired(en): cache for en
Hi,
when I've read Tim's mail, I got really angry. Why would we translate
anything on the translatewiki, when it's ignored for a month (or
longer)?? When one has to correct some translation, then it's double
work. I have to correct it on my local wiki, and on translatewiki. We
copied the almost
Roan Kattouw wrote:
Tim Starling tstarl...@... writes:
The LocalisationUpdate extension is slow, with a significant
performance loss per page view due to DB queries,
I can't reproduce that locally. After installing LocalisationUpdate and
visiting
a few pages, I get:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com wrote:
Yesterday, new projects were opened:
* Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
* Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
* Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
* Acehnese Wikipedia
Tim Starling tstarl...@... writes:
Presumably this is LU invalidating the l10ncache. This does not happen on a
second or subsequent page view, though. Instead, I get
MessageCache::load: Loading en... got from global cache
and I see messages being pulled from the l10n_cache table.
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
The problem with svn up is that it does not take into account that the
software run in production is not the same version that exists in SVN.
Consequently you could update messages that are no longer the same. What
LocalisationUpdate does is verify if the message
Hoi,
When a back port is created, There is *a lot of manual work* involved in
preparing the messages that are relevant to a specific release. As it is,
translatewiki.net localises the latest development versions of software and
this is not what runs in production. The key functionality of
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
When a back port is created, There is *a lot of manual work* involved in
preparing the messages that are relevant to a specific release. As it is,
translatewiki.net localises the latest development versions of software and
this is not what runs in production. The
Hello, Waldir.
Waldir Pimenta wrote:
When the Vector skin became available, I tried it on my home wiki,
pt.wikipedia, and noticed that a great deal of its interface was still in
English. So I went to translatewiki.net and translated the remaining strings
to Portuguese. Then I waited, and
Hoi,
Three things:
- Perfection is the enemy of the good; this works now
- This works for all extensions and MediaWiki supported in the WMF SVN
and localised in translatewiki.net
- This is tightly integrated with what has been localised in
translatewiki.net
There are two benefits
Nice!
Quick sp correction: Punjabi
Milos Rancic wrote:
Yesterday, new projects were opened:
* Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
* Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
* Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
* Acehnese Wikipedia
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Andre Engelsandreeng...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that interwiki links to these projects (at least the
Wikipedias, I haven't checked on Wikinews) are not working yet. Could
someone from the technical team mend this asap? Thanks in advance!
--
André Engels,
Hoi,
Actually according to the standard Panjabi is the correct spelling.
Thanks,
GerardM
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=pnb
2009/8/13 Kul Takanao Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org
Nice!
Quick sp correction: Punjabi
Milos Rancic wrote:
Yesterday, new projects were
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Actually according to the standard Panjabi is the correct spelling.
Thanks,
GerardM
Hmmm...really? And I'm half Punjabi. You'd think I should know that. --Kul
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
Actually according to the standard Panjabi is the correct spelling.
It is the same moronic standard which says that the Egyptian dialect is a
language.
Congrats to the new projects, I just hope that they are
2009/8/13 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
Yesterday, new projects were opened:
* Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
* Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
* Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
* Acehnese Wikipedia (http://ace.wikipedia.org/)
* Turkish
Hoi,
When the most often used Mediawiki messages have been localised for any of
the Berber languages, we will be looking at the status at the Incubator.
When there are sufficient articles of a sufficient size written by a smalll
community we will see if the language is recognised as the language
Because we haven't had a chance to finish final review fixups on it.
Should be done in the next few days. (Why are there like 500 replies to
this from people we've already talked to directly and know what's up?)
-- brion
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Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm
Thank, Serita
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Seritaserita@bridgespan.org wrote:
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm
[from my comments in
On 8/13/09 12:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
(I went on, on IRC, to point some examples of the behavioural change
that happened towards the end of 2007 (per my cruddy memory) where
non-widely-linked redirects basically fell out of the google index...
search terms like Jesus bug or many other
Perhaps we should try using the titles for things that other people
use--not for g-rank, but as signs that we recognize that an
encyclopedia is made for the readers.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Brion
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM, David Goodmandgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps we should try using the titles for things that other people
use--not for g-rank, but as signs that we recognize that an
encyclopedia is made for the readers.
Eh— It's unsolvable in some cases... People frequently
2009/8/13 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
Yesterday, new projects were opened:
* Sorani Wikipedia (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/)
* Western Panjabi Wikipedia (http://pnb.wikipedia.org/)
* Mirandese Wikipedia (http://mwl.wikipedia.org/)
* Acehnese Wikipedia (http://ace.wikipedia.org/)
* Turkish
2009/8/13 Cox, Serita serita@bridgespan.org:
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm
Thank, Serita
There is evidence that Google has
It was raised before on the Village Pump, but I think this is so disturbing
that we ought to do something.
Alphascript Publishing has published over 1900 (and counting) books, all
available on Amazon. Prices range from $31 to $179. All of these books are
simple computer-generated copies from
When I worked for the FSF I helped to run a campaign against the
Amazon Kindle (and, DRM in general). We did an action called The
Kindle Swindle in which we asked people to tag all DRM ebooks and the
kindle itself with the tags kindle swindle and DRM.
People went ahead and tagged close to a
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Andrew Grayandrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
For those curious as to overall statistics, that's about 270 language
editions of Wikipedia, now. (The various lists seem to disagree
slightly, and it's a little lower if we omit two empty projects).
Turkish Wikinews
I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative
campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright.
. A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It
would be entirely appropriate for individuals, even in a somewhat
coordinated way, to add a
That was kinda my point.
They deceive potential buyers into thinking it's an original book/content
without disclosing that it's just a copy from Wikipedia. There are
disclaimers inside the book -- but that comes only after opening the wallet.
Someone should put it up front.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Seritaserita@bridgespan.org wrote:
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
David Goodman wrote:
I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative
campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright.
. A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It
would be entirely appropriate for individuals, even in a somewhat
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Seritaserita@bridgespan.org wrote:
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39484015,00.htm
Thank, Serita
On 8/13/09 5:28 PM, Angela wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
So— I tried 20 random words, and the WP result was lower in four of
them, the same in the rest.
No pattern really... We still have the problem with article at funny name;
redirect
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Cox, Seritaserita@bridgespan.org wrote:
Google's new search engine, Caffeine, is supposedly kicking Wikipedia
entries further down results page. Thoughts? Comments?
So what? Wikipedia's goal isn't to get high search rankings. It's to
be a useful resource
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