Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Dorozynski Janusz
| -Original Message- | From: foundation-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l- | boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jon Davis | Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:53 AM / | In the end, vandals get bored. It is thrilling to defile Wikipedia | once or twice, but when

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Tom Maaswinkel
I can understand why 'outside' people would think that wikipedia is unreliable. But don't all the articles have sources? So why don't they just learn their students to verify the sources themselves (help us out while they're at it) and then they'll see quick enough that wikipedia is reliable.

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hi Tyler, The problem of vandalism is indeed one and it will remain so. Most people don't realize actually that not everybody can edit, or if he does, it is very likely that his edit will be reverted. That is our real problem - it is difficult to join the team, which may become smaller and no

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Shlomi Fish wrote: In one of the open source conferences in Israel, the bureaucrat of the Hebrew wikipedia, came on stage and said How can you trust an encyclopaedia that anyone can edit? How can you trust an encyclopaedia that no one can edit!! I usually say: I admit it is

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hey Philippe, That's pretty snarky, Domas. There was a legitimate question there. :-) Did community strategy members come up with this conclusion, or you had to involve external consultants?! Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Jiri Hofman
Dear Tyler, the kids have got a point. This bothers a lot of people. But it is not so crucial. First of all, vandals are not a big problem for Wikipedia. The number of vandals is much lower then billion. Editors are very successful in a fight against them so far. Naturally appearing mistakes

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Mike Godwin
Some folks at Wikipedia criticize the heck out of schools and don't trust schools because schools let anyone in, including people who don't want to learn. If schools tolerate people who don't learn, why do they exist? There could be a billion disruptive students. And when the old ones graduate,

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread William Pietri
On 02/16/2010 03:09 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: Hey Philippe, That's pretty snarky, Domas. There was a legitimate question there. :-) Did community strategy members come up with this conclusion, or you had to involve external consultants?! Domas, I am disappointed with the

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote: Kids at my school are criticizing the heck out of your Foundation and will not trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it.  If anyone can edit, then why do you exist? There could be a billion vandals.  When the old ones

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Domas Mituzas
William, Domas, I am disappointed with the frequent disrespect with which you treat colleagues, as exemplified by your responses here to Tyler and Philippe. I respect Philippe - we had lots of great time and discussions in the past - and I hope he remembers that (including all my thoughts

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread William Pietri
On 02/16/2010 02:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: In general: Never before people knew so little about something they use so often, as a German journalist said about Wikipedia. In a strange way, that pleases me; as Danny Hillis says, What people mean by the word technology is the stuff that doesn't

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:32 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 02/16/2010 02:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: In general: Never before people knew so little about something they use so often, as a German journalist said about Wikipedia. In a strange way, that pleases me; as Danny

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: I respect Philippe - we had lots of great time and discussions in the past - and I hope he remembers that (including all my thoughts about the work he is doing), and doesn't think I'm in any way disrespectful! I'm sorry, if it is seen

Re: [Foundation-l] At school

2010-02-16 Thread Michael Snow
Philippe Beaudette wrote: Indeed, I remember some wonderful conversations, particularly one in which Domas and I attempted to drink all the beer in Argentina. At lunch. We were THIS close. It's because of that interaction and the solid base that it's built on that I felt comfortable

[Foundation-l] strategy office hours

2010-02-16 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
Hi everyone, Sorry for the late reminder. Strategic planning IRC office hours are tonight: Wednesday from 04:00-05:00 UTC, which is: Tuesday, 8-9pm PST Tuesday, 11pm-12am EST As always, you can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net and filling in a username and the channel

[Foundation-l] Are you a Wikibookian? Invitation to Online Interview

2010-02-16 Thread Amal Hanna
Dear Wikibook Contributor, Thank you for those who participated in the online questionnaire which aims to assess the motivation of Wikibooks' contributors. I am pleased to advise that the analysis of the data from the completed online questionnaires has been finalized. The analysis provides

[Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread Sue Gardner
Hi all, I am delighted to tell you that Google is giving Wikimedia a grant of USD 2 million. It will come to us via the Google Fund at the Tides Foundation, which handles all of Google's philanthropic activity, and it is completely unrestricted. We'll be putting out a press release tomorrow,

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread James Alexander
That is amazing! Congrats guys! It actually seems quite surprising to me to see such a large gift be totally unrestricted when most gifts of this size always seem to have ifs/ands or butts attached. User:Jamesofur James Alexander james.alexan...@rochester.edu jameso...@gmail.com 100 gmail invites

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 February 2010 02:37, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: That is amazing! Congrats guys! It actually seems quite surprising to me to see such a large gift be totally unrestricted when most gifts of this size always seem to have ifs/ands or butts attached. I agree, this is

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread Wilfredo Rodriguez
WOW Overwhelming!!! 2010/2/16 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com On 17 February 2010 02:37, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: That is amazing! Congrats guys! It actually seems quite surprising to me to see such a large gift be totally unrestricted when most gifts of this size

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-16 Thread shi zhao
Chinese report: http://tech.163.com/10/0217/12/5VNMNPCH000915BF.html Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] 2010/2/17 Wilfredo Rodriguez wilfre...@gmail.com: WOW Overwhelming!!! 2010/2/16 Thomas

[Foundation-l] Money for the Prishtina Insight

2010-02-16 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Hi, I wonder if you know about : http://prishtinainsight.com/ They have a great newspaper that is very informative. Problem is: it is lacking funding. My idea is that we would raise funding from wikimedia to buy articles from them to put in the wikipedia. Or we would raise funding from other

Re: [Foundation-l] Money for the Prishtina Insight

2010-02-16 Thread Nikola Smolenski
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I wonder if you know about : http://prishtinainsight.com/ They have a great newspaper that is very informative. Problem is: it is lacking funding. My idea is that we would raise funding from wikimedia to buy articles from them to put in the