Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:09:42 -0700, Daniel Phelps wrote: > The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the new > Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy Roth > will work with public policy programs at universities across the United > States to i

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread Domas Mituzas
> Why is the team chosen to target specifically the US? I am not sure I am > comfortable with this choice. Because in Russia team targets you :) Oh wait, this isn't slashdot. Let's hope this is like usability project, where US-based operations are being expanded onto other cultures/nations/count

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread James Alexander
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:09:42 -0700, Daniel Phelps > wrote: > > The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the > new > > Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy > Roth > > will work

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:09:42 -0700, Daniel Phelps > wrote: > > The Wikimedia Foundation has hired four new staff members to guide the > new > > Public Policy Initiative. Annie Lin, LiAnna Davis, Sage Ross, and Amy > Roth > > will work

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:41:42 -0500, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > This is a pilot program for extending the educational purpose of the WMF. > Not speaking for the staff, but I assume a primary reason is that is > funded > by a grant that will require travel for a lot of the staff for the program, >

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:21:33 +0300, Domas Mituzas wrote: >> Why is the team chosen to target specifically the US? I am not sure I am >> comfortable with this choice. > > Because in Russia team targets you :) Oh wait, this isn't slashdot. > Let's hope this is like usability project, where US-bas

[Foundation-l] Interwiki links revisited

2010-06-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There have been a lot of angry words about the interwiki links being unavailable by default. Aggressive words like "lynching" have been used. It has been suggested that the availability is against what the Wikimedia Foundation stands for. The fact of the matter is that it is exactly this negat

[Foundation-l] Interlanguage extension

2010-06-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Since there has been so much discussion about Interlanguage links recently, i thought that it would be appropriate to raise another issue, which has already been raised several times on Bugzilla, Meta and Wikitech-l, but has not garnered enough attention. I am referring to the problem with the cur

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-10 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 6/9/10, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > One undertone that I've witnessed everywhere is that people > in open source > communities that have a clear organizational "owner" is > that there is a very > uneven distribution of people who want a peer-to-peer > relationship versus a > customer-

[Foundation-l] Collapsed galleries for particularly explicit images

2010-06-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
There is currently a discussion at the en:WP content noticeboard whether we could or should 1. Use collapsed galleries for particularly graphic sexual images (requiring the reader to click "Show" to see the content) 2. Display them openly, as has been normal practice so far 3. Dispense with im

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-10 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Birgitte SB wrote: > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > From the vantage point of the "vendor" in this case, the > > problem is compounded by the cognitive bias Erik pointed to (belief > > that the group you're a member of is diverse, whereas other group

Re: [Foundation-l] Collapsed galleries for particularly explicit images

2010-06-10 Thread Excirial
This has been discussed many times on many occasions. See the extensive archives of depictions of muhammedand the long discussion regarding the images on the goatse.sxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2010_March_29#Fi

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

2010-06-10 Thread Frank Schulenburg
I'm happy to do office hours as well. Thanks Thomas, Frank 2010/6/9 Thomas Dalton : > On 10 June 2010 01:13, Cary Bass wrote: >> Hey everyone! >> >> On Friday, June 11, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike >> Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read >> ab

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

2010-06-10 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, It would be great to have one from the technical staff also... Best, -- Huib "Abigor" Laurens Tech team www.wikiweet.nl - www.llamadawiki.nl - www.forgotten-beauty.com - www.huiblaurens.nl - www.wikiweet.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-10 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > > > Is vendor-to-customer development more efficient than peer-to-peer in > the end?  A lot of open-source projects (e.g., Firefox) have as many > features as their closed-source counterparts, on a much smaller > budget. > ... >...  Empiri

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-10 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > As you know, any time you want to compel someone to do something, there's > always the carrot and the stick.  One thing I don't like about the way > you've phrased that is that is that you seem to be advocating the stick.  Am > I reading that r

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Friday, June 11, featuring Mike Godwin

2010-06-10 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 10 June 2010 19:47, Huib Laurens wrote: > Hi, > > It would be great to have one from the technical staff also... I mentioned Danese (CTO), do you want to here from other technical staff? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Foundation-l] Vector improves the visibility of interwikis, reader said

2010-06-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
«You're marvellous. I've particularly appreciated the languages menu and I think that in the future it will be even more important (Indian, Chinese etc.).» Funny feedback from a reader here: http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Progetto:Coordinamento/Usabilit%C3%A0&oldid=32767202#Parere App

Re: [Foundation-l] Collapsed galleries for particularly explicit images

2010-06-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 June 2010 17:54, Excirial wrote: > This has been discussed many times on many occasions. It comes up every year or two, in accordance with the typical 18-24 month cycle of Wikipedia contribution. The discussion is pretty much the same every time. - d. __

Re: [Foundation-l] Interlanguage extension

2010-06-10 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > ... > A simpler solution was proposed and implemented by Nikola Smolenski > about two years ago (see the links at the end). It still haven't been > enabled in the live WMF projects because of technical issues, which > seemed to me rather mi

[Foundation-l] Pending Changes (nee Flagged Protection) update for June 10

2010-06-10 Thread William Pietri
As requested, here's the weekly Pending Changes update. We proceed boldly toward launch. The main update is that we have pushed the English Wikipedia launch back one day to Tuesday, June 15. That will let us avoid stepping on the WP Academy Israel event, and it means Jimmy Wales will be availab

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

2010-06-10 Thread geni
On 10 June 2010 06:09, Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > Forwarded on behalf of a non-list-member. > > The question pertains to translation of trademarks within articles; to my > knowledge, there's nothing wrong with us doing so, and I think this is done > in many Wikipedias.  But I'll defer to the list on t

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement - Public Policy Initiative Team joins WMF

2010-06-10 Thread LiAnna Davis
> Why is the team chosen to target specifically the US? I am not sure I am > comfortable with this choice. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > Hi Yaroslav, James and Keegan's responses to your question are good (thanks!), and here's a bit more context. Yes, we do have a funder that wants to help improve th

Re: [Foundation-l] Cultural awareness and sensitivity

2010-06-10 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Delphine, Talking about 'cultural awareness and sensitivity' would you let me propose some minor case study? > reaction to what to me was actually a rather funny comment. However, > Mariano's following reaction as well as Yaroslav's came across to me > as unecessarily aggressive and actuall

Re: [Foundation-l] Collapsed galleries for particularly explicit images

2010-06-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Call me an optimist -- I retain the hope that such discussions may not remain circular forever, but eventually might come to resemble a spiral, with some upwards movement, as has happened in other areas like BLP. In discussions around these issues, it is easy for people on both sides of the a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

2010-06-10 Thread Andre Engels
I think that we cannot decide this for you, this is typically something you (that is, the Persian Wikipedia community) have to decide themselves. Having said that, the best strategy in my opinion would be to do whatever is usual in Persian texts - which might well be different for different tradema

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

2010-06-10 Thread Michael Snow
On 6/9/2010 2:01 AM, Austin Hair wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > >> 2) Make sure that every paid developer spends time dealing with the >> community. This can include giving support to end users, discussing >> things with volunteers, reviewing patches, etc.