Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 07:37:18 Milos Rancic написа: >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> > Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, but just use the existing >> > ones. [People are always against making W

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > Then your Facebook friends will see that you are doing interesting things > on > Wikipedia projects and will want to do them too. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 07:37:18 Milos Rancic написа: > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, but just use the existing > > ones. [People are always against making Wikipedia a social network.] Have > > RSS feeds of articles you

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 05:58:31 Milos Rancic написа: >> That means that we need games for women. While I think that we should >> build full social network, just a basic one would help. > > Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, bu

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 05:58:31 Milos Rancic написа: > That means that we need games for women. While I think that we should > build full social network, just a basic one would help. Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, but just use the existing ones. [People are always against making

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 05:58:31 Milos Rancic написа: > That means that we need games for women. While I think that we should > build full social network, just a basic one would help. Ability to make other editors your "friends", then you could watch their Special:Contributions jointly (see wh

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Newyorkbrad
After reading the post below, I have nothing to add to today's extensive dialog about men's and women's participation, but I have decided to block Greg Maxwell indefinitely for hate speech against blondes. Newyorkbrad On 6/16/10, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:26 PM, phoebe

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Milos Rancic
There is one point around Greg's story about diversities between genders. Men enjoy in playing war (with real guns, paintball, football, edit war, argument war...). Women enjoy in playing less aggressive games. The only games available on Wikipedia are games for men. Facebook is different. At the

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 18 June 2010 22:16, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > >> This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. > >> Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find the

[Foundation-l] Pending Changes update for June 18

2010-06-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, As I'm sure you're all aware, the Pending Changes trial began earlier this week, and seems to be off to a great start. There are many issues to be sorted out both on the community policy side and on the technical side, but everyone here seems to grappling with the community issues wi

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread susanpgardner
Milos, this is really interesting -- thanks for posting it. I'm sorry as usual to top-post and not snip (BB), but I did want to make a tiny point about TED. My understanding is they've been super-successful with translations -- a very large and active transcribing-and-translating-of-talks commu

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread James Alexander
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > > This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. > > Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not > > Spam" them manually. > > > > Gah!

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 18 June 2010 22:16, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. >> Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not >> Spam" them manually. > > > > Gah!  The search re

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though. > Search for "in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org" to find them and "Not > Spam" them manually. Gah! The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ... and it s

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Milos Rancic
Here are my two cents... I am organizing now TEDx event in Belgrade. (Unlike others, our speakers will sign contract for CC-BY-SA, too.) And I am carefully watching gender and age involvement at the Facebook page. Our predispositions were again dominantly male: 5 males and one female in organizat

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

2010-06-18 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Lodewijk > wrote: >> we want photo's! > > The company is making photos of every billboard. We have a deal to get > all of them under GFDL/CC-BY-SA :) > First photos (without formal approval, thus not on Com

Re: [Foundation-l] Floating a notion: permanent Wikimania committee?

2010-06-18 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 00:00:27 -0700, phoebe ayers > wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Michael Snow >> wrote: >>> --Michael Snow >> >> I'm interested in this case specifically of course, but I also am >> wondering more gene

Re: [Foundation-l] Country portals

2010-06-18 Thread Marcus Buck
Casey Brown hett schreven: > I created a page about country portals a while ago (things like > wikipedia.de), with the intention of asking people to take a look at > it, make sure everything was right, and expand it... but I never got > around to it and here I am now. ;-) > > The page is here:

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Michael Snow
Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Gregory, > I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your post, but it sounded very much like > you were saying that encyclopedia writing is a skill that is too > academic for women: > "...general approaches which make Wikipedia more palatable to "average > people"... may have a greate

Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."

2010-06-18 Thread geni
On 18 June 2010 08:53, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: >> The "original" original of the concept itself is of course >> "The Flight of the Bumblebee", with a related concept >> being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it >> begins trying to "think through" wh

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Gregory, I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your post, but it sounded very much like you were saying that encyclopedia writing is a skill that is too academic for women: "...general approaches which make Wikipedia more palatable to "average people"... may have a greater impact at reducing gender imba

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Cary Bass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/17/2010 10:17 AM, Risker wrote: > I can confirm that Gmail has been marking at least some mail as > spam from *every* Wikimedia or Wikipedia list to which I subscribe, > and has been doing so since June 11. This includes messages from > the OTRS

Re: [Foundation-l] Country portals

2010-06-18 Thread Casey Brown
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:39 AM, AGK wrote: > Oh, I didn't know they existed. Not a bad idea at all! Are they all > hosted externally or by the WMF? I think they're all hosted externally (usually by chapters), but the point of the page is to find out things like that and write them down. :-) --

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Gervai
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:30, Chad wrote: > A few of us noticed this several days back. If you check some > of the blacklists, lists.wikimedia.org seems to have some people's > naughty list. Don't know if that's whats causing it or not though. It usually does, but right now I don't see it liste

Re: [Foundation-l] Country portals

2010-06-18 Thread AGK
On 17 June 2010 22:39, Casey Brown wrote: > country portals a while ago (things like wikipedia.de) Oh, I didn't know they existed. Not a bad idea at all! Are they all hosted externally or by the WMF? AGK ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@list

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Chad
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for > the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia > lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l.  I don't know what if any > work has be

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Filip Maljkovic
On 06/17/2010 07:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > There is a simple solution: > > 1) Click "create a filter" next to the search bar > 2) Type "lists.wikimedia.org" in the "To:" box > 3) Click "Next step" > 4) Check "Never send to spam" > 5) Save the filter > > This will NOT get things out of spam that

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

2010-06-18 Thread Risker
I've been following this thread and it occurred to me that Phoebe is the lone woman posting to it, so I feel somewhat duty-bound to share my own perspective as a woman editor on English Wikipedia. I don't intend this to encapsulate everything that there is to be said on the subject, and it's a topi

Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."

2010-06-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > The "original" original of the concept itself is of course > "The Flight of the Bumblebee", with a related concept > being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it > begins trying to "think through" what it is doing with > them. > The concept of "Information

Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..."

2010-06-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ryan Lomonaco wrote: > Forwarded per request. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Joseph Reagle > Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM > Subject: Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] "The problem with Wikipedia..." > To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoeb

Re: [Foundation-l] Floating a notion: permanent Wikimania committee?

2010-06-18 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 00:00:27 -0700, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Michael Snow > wrote: >> --Michael Snow > > I'm interested in this case specifically of course, but I also am > wondering more generally what the current state of affairs is for > forming any sort of ope

Re: [Foundation-l] Floating a notion: permanent Wikimania committee?

2010-06-18 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 6/17/2010 5:35 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: >> OK, so I guess my question is (and we talked about this on IRC too) -- >> who has the power or the ability -- or who *should*, in a perfect >> world -- create such a committee? We don't have much p