[Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread McGuire, Jill
Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Thanks, Jill McGuire USOPM/HRS/LTMS/HRMS/TOOLSTECH/QA - Macon, GA | 478.744.2374 | jill.mcgu...@opm.govmailto:jill.mcgu...@opm.gov ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Christine Moellenberndt
Answered off-list. -Christine - Christine Moellenberndt Community Associate Wikimedia Foundation christ...@wikimedia.org On 2/16/11 9:16 AM, McGuire, Jill wrote: Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Thanks, Jill McGuire USOPM/HRS/LTMS/HRMS/TOOLSTECH/QA - Macon, GA |

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What IS a VPAT for 508 in the first place ? Thanks, Gerard On 16 February 2011 18:16, McGuire, Jill jill.mcgu...@opm.gov wrote: Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Thanks, Jill McGuire USOPM/HRS/LTMS/HRMS/TOOLSTECH/QA - Macon, GA | 478.744.2374 |

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
A Voluntary Product Accessibility Templatehttp://www.itic.org/index.php?src=gendocsref=vpatcategory=resources, or VPAT, is a standardized form developed by the Information Technology Industry Council to show how a software product meets key regulations of Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act. On

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Huib Laurens
Section 508, an amendment to the United States Workforce Rehabilitation Act of 1973, is a federal law mandating that all electronic and information technology developed, procured, maintained, or used by the federal government be accessible to people with disabilities. Technology is deemed to be

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that Unites States government agencies do use MediaWiki, it is quite a relevant question. Given that we provide such an important service on a worldwide scale, I would be interested in learning the answer to the question. Is that possible ? In the final analysis we can only achieve our

[Foundation-l] BBC: An 'English goddess' for India's down-trodden

2011-02-16 Thread David Gerard
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12355740 The Dalits (Untouchables) see English as utterly necessary to breaking out of their current sociocultural trap, and never mind the local languages. That said, education is good. What can we do that might help people along? - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread MZMcBride
Christine Moellenberndt wrote: On 2/16/11 9:16 AM, McGuire, Jill wrote: Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Answered off-list. What was the answer? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 February 2011 19:41, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Christine Moellenberndt wrote: On 2/16/11 9:16 AM, McGuire, Jill wrote: Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Answered off-list. What was the answer? Or, as probably everyone is wondering by now: what makes this an

[Foundation-l] Do WMF want enwp.org?

2011-02-16 Thread Thomas Wang
Hi! If WMF want enwp.org I will gladly hand it over. -Thomas ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want enwp.org?

2011-02-16 Thread aude
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Wang tl-lo...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi! If WMF want enwp.org I will gladly hand it over. Thank you for running this service! I use it all the time for including wikipedia links in Twitter. It would be nice if it was officially supported by WMF or you

Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want enwp.org?

2011-02-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 February 2011 20:58, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for running this service!  I use it all the time for including wikipedia links in Twitter. +1 It would be nice if it was officially supported by WMF or you were given resources necessary to maintain the service. +1

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Moka Pantages
Original Message Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want enwp.org? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:58:37 -0500 From: aude aude.w...@gmail.com aude.w...@gmail.com Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.orgfoundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. _ *Béria Lima (Beh) * 2011/2/16 Moka Pantages mpanta...@wikimedia.org Original Message Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Do WMF want

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-02-16 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So to en.wiki would be en.wp.org, de.wiki de.wp.org and etc. That would be a good thing to have, yes. However, what already exists and, what is owned by

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Christine Moellenberndt cmoellenber...@wikimedia.org wrote: The answer is, to the best of our knowledge, no. But we'd like to improve that. i took it off-list as it seemed to be a question that was more Media-Wiki centered, and not as much Foundation centered.

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Eh? When Wikipedia is to comply with this, technically it will be in MediaWiki where such compliance is realised. Also MediaWiki is a Wikimedia Foundation project in its own right. Many people who read this list, including me, find this a subject that is absolutely on topic. Even stronger, I

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Christine Moellenberndt cmoellenber...@wikimedia.org wrote: The answer is, to the best of our knowledge, no. But we'd like to improve that. i took it off-list as it seemed to be a

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm..  strikes me odd and worries me than Community Associate doesn't seem to differentiate between software Media-Wiki (sic), and Foundation/Community issues (Wikimedia). Opening post was about if Wikimedia (as

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Risker
While I sympathize that people think this issue should be discussed here, it is a direct question to the Wikimedia Foundation from a government official, and it needs to be responded to by the WMF. While the post wound up here (and for that, I will look directly at the WMF for not having a really

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: While I sympathize that people think this issue should be discussed here, it is a direct question to the Wikimedia Foundation from a government official, and it needs to be responded to by the WMF. While the post wound up here

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread FT2
VPAT is a statement by the authors of software, showing how accessibility needs are taken account of in the software. Buyers and users of the software may wish to (or have a duty to) take that into account in their decision whether they will use the software. WMF might be asked for Mediawiki's

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Nathan wrote: At some point WMF employees might just stop posting here altogether, to escape the unfounded criticism. This +1. I can think of what, three or four instances in the past couple of weeks, in which WMF employees were excessively criticized for their

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread MZMcBride
Dan Rosenthal wrote: On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Nathan wrote: At some point WMF employees might just stop posting here altogether, to escape the unfounded criticism. This +1. I can think of what, three or four instances in the past couple of weeks, in which WMF employees were excessively

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:00 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Dan Rosenthal wrote: On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Nathan wrote: At some point WMF employees might just stop posting here altogether, to escape the unfounded criticism. This +1. I can think of what, three or four instances in the past couple

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread James Alexander
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Dan Rosenthal wrote: On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Nathan wrote: At some point WMF employees might just stop posting here altogether, to escape the unfounded criticism. It's not about assuming that Wikimedia's

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Pronoein
Le 17/02/2011 02:07, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent than foundation-l (although I'm going to

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Daniel Phelps
On Feb 16, 2011, at 9:00 PM, MZMcBride wrote: Most Wikimedia employees don't post or subscribe to this list already, though I don't think it has very much to do with criticism. Wikimedia employees are required to be subscribed to staff-l, but they're not required to be subscribed to this list

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread MZMcBride
Dan Rosenthal wrote: I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent than foundation-l (although I'm going to disagree with you and suggest

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:29 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Dan Rosenthal wrote: I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent than foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Pronoein wrote: Le 17/02/2011 02:07, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : I'm not referring to a single incident. I'm referring to a broader trend; there have been recent incidents on other mailing lists as well, including ones where staff subscriptions are more prevalent

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Jon Davis
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 21:00, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Most Wikimedia employees don't post or subscribe to this list already, You might be surprised at the number that do subscribe. Not that I've got an official count (since people use their personal accounts, such as myself),

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Pronoein
Le 17/02/2011 03:41, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : Your solution is that it is easier to blame the staff, rather than point out that the criticism lacks any foundation? And then you say assume good faith? That does not make much sense to me. Good faith is a two-way street. Not at all. I'm saying

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:49 AM, Pronoein wrote: Le 17/02/2011 03:41, Dan Rosenthal a écrit : Your solution is that it is easier to blame the staff, rather than point out that the criticism lacks any foundation? And then you say assume good faith? That does not make much sense to me. Good

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-16 Thread Christine Moellenberndt
I am loathe to dive in here, since it was my post that kind of kick-started this whole thing and I certainly don't want to draw any more fire to be honest. But I also feel loathe to stay away, partially for that same reason, but also because of a few other things I've been thinking about not