Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book

2011-03-30 Thread David Richfield
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:42 AM, teun spaans wrote: > If i interpret the link correctly, these are only featured articles? Exactly: I was asking how big it would be if you added the "good articles" as well. > 2011/3/30 David Richfield > >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fred Bauder >> wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread teun spaans
And of course the widely read sensation newspaper is copying the message widely: http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/9409794/__Minder_schrijvers_Wikipedia__.html?p=24,2 Their readers often react, usually without much feeling for nuance. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Martijn Hoekstra < martijnho

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book

2011-03-30 Thread teun spaans
If i interpret the link correctly, these are only featured articles? 2011/3/30 David Richfield > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fred Bauder > wrote: > > http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ > > > > Rob, > > > > May I direct your attention to: > > > > https://secure.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread teun spaans
I can confirm what Gerard says: they are influential in the financial and management sector. I occasionally listen to them while driving. The article mentions a german research. At the moment there is one reaction confirming it from personal experience. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Austin Hai

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:45 PM, The Mono wrote: > The problem is simple. Our top contributors leave. Because the way things > work makes it simply intolerable. > > *25%* of all respondents [in a survey of contributors] said they stopped > contributing because > > *"Some editors made Wikipedia a d

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread The Mono
The problem is simple. Our top contributors leave. Because the way things work makes it simply intolerable. *25%* of all respondents [in a survey of contributors] said they stopped contributing because *"Some editors made Wikipedia a difficult place to work"* * * *(http://strategy.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-30 Thread Waldir Pimenta
Milos, Basque is not spoken on that list. I haven't heard of any interest in creating a Basque chapter (and I've recently been in contact with a few people from the Basque Wikipedia, for a chapter-like activity, so I believe I would know if such interest existed), and the Iberocoop list, on the ot

[Foundation-l] IRC office hours tomorrow with Sue Gardner about editor retention

2011-03-30 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone, So following up on the results of the Editor Trends Study and the announcements about the topic of editor retention, I wanted to invite you all to an IRC office hours on the 31st at 17:00 UTC. On St. Patrick's Day we also had a good chat about this issue, so it would be nice to carry

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due toagression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread widiyanto
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Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression"(dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread widiyanto
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Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due toagression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread widiyanto
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Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, As far as I know, the Wikimedia organizations up to now have never undertaken serious steps to analyze and tackle aggressive behavior. One idea would be to engage a social psychologist or therapist or mediator who can teach Wikipedians at conventions. Of course, the most extreme people will

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread ????
On 30/03/2011 18:44, Fred Bauder wrote: > > Well, I'm no better than you, I nearly always forget my camera, but if > you have time images nearly any village or major feature of the landscape > is always welcome, even such places as Hooper... or things such as bear > turds. Well if you leave the c

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread The Cunctator
A key problem is that it's difficult to find people who understand how Wikipedia works but also want to disrupt the status quo. Most currently active Wikipedians, pretty much by definition, like how Wikipedia works right now. Even if they are concerned in theory about overall community decline, the

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, They are national radio and television. They are particularly influential with the young. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2011 22:26, Austin Hair wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning > wrote: > > See > > > http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrij

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Austin Hair wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: >> See >>         >> http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 > > Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. > > I've lived in the Netherlands for a

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Austin Hair
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > See >         > http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/29/11 1:43 AM, Yann Forget wrote: > 2011/3/29 : >> Ah there is the reason, the sum of all human knowledge is approaching >> completion. Well done to all. > We are very far from that. > All the issue is that of notability. > > If we apply the current criteria, which is mainly applied on We

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Fred Bauder
> On 03/29/11 11:13 AM, wrote: >> On 29/03/2011 18:19, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> Ghost towns in the American West are much written about. >> Indeed: its part of the mythology. >> > Their inhabitants continue to be consulted. > > Ec Indeed, I myself have been invited to a recording studio to tran

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/29/11 11:13 AM, wrote: > On 29/03/2011 18:19, Fred Bauder wrote: >> Ghost towns in the American West are much written about. > Indeed: its part of the mythology. > Their inhabitants continue to be consulted. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list f

[Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Kim Bruning
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Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/29/11 8:16 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > This > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crestone,_Colorado > > is the village I live in. Perhaps the rule have been bent a bit, but I > don't really see that civilization has been harmed, by doing so. What is > a reliable source varies with

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Fred Bauder
> > I know my way to Commons which is substantiated by my contribution, and > when I have smth to upload, I eventually upload and even sometimes write > an > article to include the picture, but I would not call it a systemic work. > For me, an example of systemic activity would be the message on a

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> > Well, I'm no better than you, I nearly always forget my camera, but if > you have time images nearly any village or major feature of the landscape > is always welcome, even such places as Hooper... or things such as bear > turds. > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Catego

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Fred Bauder
> >> * Except media (i.e. Wikimedia Commons), we lack of any systemic work >> on improving content. (I don't count particular initiatives, like >> cooperation between Wikipedia in X language and University in X >> country.) > > Actually, I believe we lack of any systemic work on improving content o

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book

2011-03-30 Thread David Richfield
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ > > Rob, > > May I direct your attention to: > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Upload > > Fred This is quite cool! I've seen those diagrams of how many sh

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book

2011-03-30 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ Rob, May I direct your attention to: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Upload Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https:

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> * Except media (i.e. Wikimedia Commons), we lack of any systemic work > on improving content. (I don't count particular initiatives, like > cooperation between Wikipedia in X language and University in X > country.) Actually, I believe we lack of any systemic work on improving content on Common

[Foundation-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Logo Contest open on Commons!

2011-03-30 Thread Delphine Ménard
[xpost foundation-l/commons-l] Hello all, You might have heard of Wiki Loves Monuments, an event destined to populate Wikimedia Commons with photos of listed monuments across the world. The 2011 edition is centered on Europe, but this is a movement wide/worldwide event, and we'd like to have a lo

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline

2011-03-30 Thread Pronoein
A reminder about motivation, purpose and money. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l