[Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. Is there a breakdown of who the Wikimedia Foundation sends to particular events or what events Wikimedia participates in? I know that Wikimedia sends a lot of people to a lot of conferences (and unconferences and hackathons and manias), so I assume there's some kind of record somewhere on Meta

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
+1 I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to start. If the long-contemplated Events Committee were to take form, it could help coordinate sharing and updating such lists. SJ On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:21 AM

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Béria Lima
> > *If you refer to any Brazilian native language edition of Wikipedia, may > you specify? > * Milos, There not such thing as "brazilian Wikipédia". The wikipédia he is talking abut is pt.wikipedia.org. Why he call it "Brazilian" is better ask him. _ *Béria Lima* (351

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > An interesting technique: > > http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2011/30/c8623.html This is so true! My highschool sweetheart is a science prof, and recently pointed me to this essay that one of her students published to Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Sarah
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein wrote: > Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite > templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous > impact their work has on the rest of the world... > Speaking of which, David Gerard has just posted this to wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread Fae
In the UK we coordinate using a wiki http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events but it's not that great. I would love to see a WMF and Chapter-wide shared process for using event calendars that one can subscribe to (depending on what countries you want to see) in tools such as Google Calendar and that wer

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 June 2011 10:42, Sarah wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein wrote: >> Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite >> templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous >> impact their work has on the rest of the world... > Speaking of whi

[Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread HW
Dear all,   Now, some user report that the website wikiepdia.org is copying the Wikipedia logo without Wikimedia Foundation permission. And, it will make user misunderstand it is the real Wikipedia. Same case happen in wikiedia.org , and the website all is redirect to http://www.inforewardsurvey

Re: [Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi! I kind of fail to see the Wikipedia or Wikimedia logos? Best, huib 2011/6/1 HW > Dear all, > > Now, some user report that the website wikiepdia.org is copying the > Wikipedia > logo without Wikimedia Foundation permission. And, it will make user > misunderstand it is the real Wikipedia. S

Re: [Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
Endorse Foundation action on this obvious bad-faith domain which trades off the name and domain of Wikipedia and the proportion of users who will mis-spell it. Is there a way to identify the most common other mis-spellings and how common they are? FT2 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:40 PM, HW wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Morton
Unfortunately this is the side effect of running a big website; people register the typos and put up spam sites under them. There are ways to seize or recover the domains, but it can be a pain. Tom On 1 June 2011 14:01, FT2 wrote: > Endorse Foundation action on this obvious bad-faith domain wh

[Foundation-l] Opinion of the Grinch

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
"Today we hear of a new way to exploit the unpaid Wikipedian: lazy college professors can use the crowdsourced encyclo-custodians to mark their students' work, again without any guarantee that they will do so properly or accurately. ®" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/01/wikipedia_makes_studen

[Foundation-l] Wikiocracy

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
"watching human beings collaborating on anything altruistic provides a great deal of potential entertainment value." http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/141900-wikiocracy/ Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Opinion of the Grinch

2011-06-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 June 2011 14:07, Fred Bauder wrote: > "Today we hear of a new way to exploit the unpaid Wikipedian: lazy > college professors can use the crowdsourced encyclo-custodians to mark > their students' work, again without any guarantee that they will do so > properly or accurately. ®" > http://www

[Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
"Across all markets a surprising 75% of doctors in the 51-60 age groups stated that they regularly used Wikipedia for professional use." http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=65076 They edit a lot too. It is unlikely that any doctor while under oath in discovery or testify

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > "Across all markets a surprising 75% of doctors in the 51-60 age groups > stated that they regularly used Wikipedia for professional use." > > http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=65076 > > They edit a lot too. > > It is

Re: [Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
FT2, 01/06/2011 15:01: > Endorse Foundation action on this obvious bad-faith domain which trades off > the name and domain of Wikipedia and the proportion of users who will > mis-spell it. *game over* Go back to Nemo _

Re: [Foundation-l] About Wikiepdia.org

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
Game over

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Fred Bauder > wrote: >> "Across all markets a surprising 75% of doctors in the 51-60 age groups >> stated that they regularly used Wikipedia for professional use." >> >> http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=65076 >> >> They edit a lot too.

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
There's a huge difference between "consulted Wikipedia on any matter in their professional arena" and "relied exclusively on Wikipedia for a medical matter about a patient's treatment". A doctor might well use it as a regular place (one of several) to double check something, especially obscure are

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
> There's a huge difference between "consulted Wikipedia on any matter in > their professional arena" and "relied exclusively on Wikipedia for a > medical > matter about a patient's treatment". > > A doctor might well use it as a regular place (one of several) to double > check something, especiall

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
Indeed. The problem is we don't know. The survey doesn't ask what area they use it, how often or rarely, or whether they used it "instead of" or "as well as". Different people may have different guesses how to interpret it. But we don't know. FT2 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Fred Bauder w

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Fae, 01/06/2011 13:00: > In the UK we coordinate using a wiki http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events but > it's not that great. I would love to see a WMF and Chapter-wide shared > process for using event calendars that one can subscribe to (depending on > what countries you want to see) in tools such

Re: [Foundation-l] Doctors Again

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
> Indeed. The problem is we don't know. The survey doesn't ask what area > they > use it, how often or rarely, or whether they used it "instead of" or "as > well as". > > Different people may have different guesses how to interpret it. But we > don't know. > > FT2 The only thing we can do is try

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread Fae
I had in mind something like an independent site or open source tool that uses some easy way of updating an iCal format page per Chapter. This can then be actively pulled into many types of application that handle such feeds including Google Calendar. Cheers, Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae G

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:04 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 1 June 2011 10:42, Sarah wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 02:46, Samuel Klein wrote: > >>> Those who toil away in the depths of style guide subpages and cite >>> templates should be reminded from time to time of the tremendous >>> impact t

[Foundation-l] And the winner is...

2011-06-01 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
1) http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-November/062378.html 2) Start here: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-December/062845.html and follow by thread or date. Enjoy, Virgilio A. P. Machado Executive Editor,

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
> And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing > "disambiguation" outside of linguistics... > > http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/sj/2009/06/25/on-disambiguation-and-the-atomization-of-meaning/ > > SJ Disconflation gets only 45 google hits while unconflation gets 267. Conflation, I g

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
I always took the central point about conflation to be the unwitting mixing up of separate ideas - usually but not always to the mild confusion or detriment of both. FT2 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > > And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered for popularizing > >

Re: [Foundation-l] The Wikipedia-Ready Essay

2011-06-01 Thread Fred Bauder
> I always took the central point about conflation to be the unwitting > mixing > up of separate ideas - usually but not always to the mild confusion or > detriment of both. > > FT2 Good research topic: What characteristics of ideas or facts lead to conflation. To take a notorious example, when Sa

[Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread phoebe ayers
This week, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees unanimously passed a resolution addressing the issue of controversial content on the projects. The Board also unanimously passed a resolution addressing images of identifiable, living people on the projects. The resolutions are posted at: http:/

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Nathan
Forgive me if I find these resolutions rather toothless; this is another in a string of board resolutions that simply "urge the projects." I'd love to understand what the Board thinks such resolutions will accomplish. I understand there are legal constraints on the ability of the Foundation to exer

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
"Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to certain principles: namely, we host only content that is both free and educational in nature." So Board said that Wikinews is out of scope. Its nature is informational, not educational. __

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Language committee report - May 2011

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
It seems that this wasn't forwarded from announcements list. Original Message Subject:[Wikimedia Announcements] Language committee report - May 2011 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 21:30:18 +0200 From: Robin Pepermans Reply-To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org To: in

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Michael Snow
On 6/1/2011 2:03 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > "Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to > certain principles: namely, we host only content that is both free and > educational in nature." > > So Board said that Wikinews is out of scope. Its nature is > informational, not educ

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 June 2011 21:35, Nathan wrote: > Forgive me if I find these resolutions rather toothless; this is > another in a string of board resolutions that simply "urge the > projects." I'd love to understand what the Board thinks such > resolutions will accomplish. I understand there are legal constra

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/01/2011 11:05 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > On 6/1/2011 2:03 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> "Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to >> certain principles: namely, we host only content that is both free and >> educational in nature." >> >> So Board said that Wikinews is ou

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
Information is educational. When I read Wikinews, it educates me as to significant matters going on in the world, and provides other related resources. FT2 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > "Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to > certain pri

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 1 June 2011 22:05, Michael Snow wrote: > On 6/1/2011 2:03 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> "Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to >> certain principles: namely, we host only content that is both free and >> educational in nature." >> >> So Board said that Wikinews is out

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/01/2011 11:11 PM, FT2 wrote: > Information is educational. When I read Wikinews, it educates me as to > significant matters going on in the world, and provides other related > resources. I fully agree with you. Any information is educational; it just depends of particular project scope would

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > I fully agree with you. Any information is educational; it just depends > of particular project scope would it be there or not. For example, you > don't want to put Shakespeare's works on Wikipedia, because the proper > place for it is Wikiso

Re: [Foundation-l] LangCom meeting report

2011-06-01 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, So, we are 10 days (or more) further. :-) Kind regards Ziko > >> If I interpret it right, Germans can come to the incubator and build >> up a Wikipedia in Simple German? With a reasonable chance to become >> later recognized? > > Wait for 10 days to make this issue clear. The logic behind

Re: [Foundation-l] LangCom meeting report

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/01/2011 11:44 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > So, we are 10 days (or more) further. :-) > > Kind regards > Ziko > >> >>> If I interpret it right, Germans can come to the incubator and build >>> up a Wikipedia in Simple German? With a reasonable chance to become >>> later recognized?

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 June 2011 21:35, Nathan wrote: > Forgive me if I find these resolutions rather toothless; this is > another in a string of board resolutions that simply "urge the > projects." I'd love to understand what the Board thinks such > resolutions will accomplish. It says very effectively (I thoug

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 06/01/2011 11:05 PM, Michael Snow wrote: >> On 6/1/2011 2:03 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >>> "Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according to >>> certain principles: namely, we host only content that is both free and >>> educ

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Alec Conroy
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On 06/01/2011 11:11 PM, FT2 wrote: >> Information is educational. > I fully agree with you. Any information is educational; I also strongly agree that any information is educational. The two terms are synonymous. We use 'educational' as a f

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread FT2
I took it as stating the obvious, what we all knew to expect, with one bonus: 1. *"The Wikimedia Foundation Board affirms that Wikimedia projects are not censored"* is stated first, and as a positive affirmative assertion. Everything else follows that. I like that establishment of basic

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 1 June 2011 21:35, Nathan wrote: > >> Forgive me if I find these resolutions rather toothless; this is >> another in a string of board resolutions that simply "urge the >> projects." I'd love to understand what the Board thinks such >> reso

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 June 2011 23:03, Nathan wrote: > I expect and hope that the WMF board is a little more honest and > straightforward than that would suggest. The resolution could be read > as CYA - an intentionally deflective statement with no concrete > impact. I think that opening line is pretty damn cle

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Alec Conroy
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Nathan wrote: > The resolution could be read as CYA - an intentionally deflective > statement with no concrete impact. I feel that basically _is_ the role of the board. I feel like my dream board personified is a little like a judo master. When push to rule on

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Risker
On 1 June 2011 16:17, phoebe ayers wrote: > This week, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees unanimously > passed a resolution addressing the issue of controversial content on > the projects. The Board also unanimously passed a resolution > addressing images of identifiable, living people on

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Alec Conroy wrote: > I feel that basically _is_ the role of the board.   I feel like my > dream board personified is a little like a judo master.   When push to > rule on a dispute, usually they should pull that energy and > productively deflect that energy back to

[Foundation-l] Getting involved in a Wikimedia Foundation research project

2011-06-01 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone, You might have heard some about it previously, but today we officially announced a new summer initiative in the Community Department,[1] where we've brought in a team of eight researchers to sprint with us for three months on some Wikipedia-focused questions, with a special focus on n

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 2 June 2011 00:00, phoebe ayers wrote: > I will say that the Board drafted these resolutions with good faith > and a great deal of care, and the one thing I would ask as you debate > them is to consider them as a whole. We think all of the principles we > articulate are important, and have impl

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Risker wrote: > I think the more important part of this announcement is the resolution on > images of identifiable people, and it is this section that requires > considerably more self-examination on the part of every project that hosts > or uses images. > > Commons

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Alec Conroy
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Nathan wrote: > What I'd ask the Board is this: what do you expect the impact of such > a resolution (referring again specifically to the image content > resolution) will be? By restating the ideology that the projects are > not censored in one resolution, and merel

[Foundation-l] 'This Month in GLAM' - May 2011

2011-06-01 Thread Liam Wyatt
Forwarding to foundation-l as announce-l didn't seem to send it automatically. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love & metadata -- Forwarded message -- From: Rock drum Date: 1 June 2011 18:04 Subject: [cultural-partners] 'This Month in GLAM' - May 2011 To: cultural-partn...@wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia at events

2011-06-01 Thread MZMcBride
Samuel Klein wrote: > I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event > where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to > start. I started a (very bad) page at Meta-Wiki for future events: . If anyone else

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-06-01 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/01/2011 11:56 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > We meant what is stated there: that Wikimedia project content should > be at a minimum both free and educational in nature. (In general, you > can assume that language in resolutions like this is intentional). > However, you can also safely assume that

[Foundation-l] [OT: OSM] State of the Map, Sep 9-11 - discount for early birds, scholarships

2011-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
Somewhat off-topic, from one of our awesome cousin projects: The annual OSM meeting will be in Denver this September 9-11. Early bird registration ends in two weeks. Outside of Wikimedia, OSM may be the most successful focused free knowledge project around, and has revolutionized the culture of