Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Newyorkbrad
I'm glad I finally found you. I have a silly walk, and I'd like to apply for a government grant to help me develop it. Newyorkbrad 2011/8/23 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com Wow, if all it takes to get exemption from road tax is a quick edit, I can guess there will soon be a number

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread David Richfield
2011/8/24 Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com: I'm glad I finally found you.  I have a silly walk, and I'd like to apply for a government grant to help me develop it. Newyorkbrad OK, first step: post a video of your walk to Commons under a free license. -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Newyorkbrad
I did, but it was deleted. The deletion summary was that's not *particularly *silly Newyorkbrad 2011/8/24 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com 2011/8/24 Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com: I'm glad I finally found you. I have a silly walk, and I'd like to apply for a government

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Chris Keating
Just occasionally this Python sketch feels very relevant to Wikipedia; M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please. R:Certainly sir. Have you been here before? M: No, I haven't, this is my first time. R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Stop this thread at once! It's gotten entirely too silly! Kirill 2011/8/24 Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com I did, but it was deleted. The deletion summary was that's not *particularly *silly Newyorkbrad 2011/8/24 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com 2011/8/24 Newyorkbrad

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Fae
Agreed, this thread is definitely deceased ... following a prolonged squawk. Fae -- http://enwp.org/user_talk:fae Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/faetags ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Morton
No way, it's just resting! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Guillaume Paumier, 24/08/2011 16:36: The AbuseFilter extension for MediaWiki, which helps prevent vandalism on wikis, will be globally enabled on all Wikimedia projects later today. More information is available at

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Guillaume Paumier
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:57 PM, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote: On 24 August 2011 15:55, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: I know I can look at noc.wikimedia.org, but could you please add some info about the default configuration so that at least sysops know what to

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread MZMcBride
Guillaume Paumier wrote: The AbuseFilter extension for MediaWiki, which helps prevent vandalism on wikis, will be globally enabled on all Wikimedia projects later today. More information is available at http://blog.wikimedia.org/?p=6106 From

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:17 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Was there any discussion about giving every Wikimedia user an abuse log? I don't really have any objection to the AbuseFilter (beyond the performance implications, particularly with poorly written filters), but there are

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Wjhonson
Admins are once again given even more extensive content powers ? And that's a good thing right Captain Kirk? It's a good thing right? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Wjhonson
Let me rephrase in a slightly less trollish manner. Admins should never be given powers over content. Not now, not then, not ever. Admins have no business being involved in content of any type ever :) In every possible universe. Will -Original Message- From: Wjhonson

Re: [Foundation-l] Board of Trustees activity report - May-June 2011

2011-08-24 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: phoebe ayers, 04/08/2011 07:29: The Board has been working on a report of our activities; please find the first report, covering May and June of this year, below. This is a short summary, meant to help share

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Admins should never be given powers over content.  Not now, not then, not ever. Admins have no business being involved in content of any type ever :) In every possible universe. Oh, sure. Especially when the content is HELLO I

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Wjhonson
Extreme cases can be used to justify any action Victor. Why live in a country where every month new powers are being given to the police to control the population? Who wants to live in that country? -Original Message- From: Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Morton
Let me rephrase in a slightly less trollish manner. Admins should never be given powers over content. Perhaps fittingly, the abuse filter has been active on English Wikipedia for some time. And even better, it is not a sysop group right. Instead it has its own group. If you are volunteering

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Wjhonson
Give me permission. I am volunteering to head up the abuse filter team. Thomas don't mistake my point for some other point. I am not suggesting that admins AS EDITORS should veer away from content creation, but rather that admins using their clubs should not be given more clubs with which to

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Morton
On 24 August 2011 18:12, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Give me permission. I am volunteering to head up the abuse filter team. Thomas don't mistake my point for some other point. I am not suggesting that admins AS EDITORS should veer away from content creation, but rather that admins

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Extreme cases can be used to justify any action Victor. Why live in a country where every month new powers are being given to the police to control the population? Who wants to live in that country? I'm amused. The first

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Alhen
The filter works. On es@wiki we don't have a group. We just have a group of people that add some rules when asked. The admins who know how to add rules do it, the others, ask the ones that know about it, period. I'm really happy people don't have to worry about certain types of vandalism. I just

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

2011-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Guillaume Paumier, 24/08/2011 17:39: Both concerns you raise are valid, and I agree with you, but globally enabling the extension by default is no different in that sense from enabling it one wiki at a time. Mischievous admins could be abusing AbuseFilter already on any small wiki where the

Re: [Foundation-l] Board of Trustees activity report - May-June 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 24/08/2011 18:39: Thanks Nemo! It is true that the first part of the report is a duplication of the resolutions meeting minutes that we publish. My assumption here was that not everyone keeps up with all of the board resolutions etc :) It is also nice to have a single record of

Re: [Foundation-l] Genuine, Generous, and Grateful

2011-08-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
@itwikiquote is an experiment by WMI, it's a bot that writes the Quote of the day via Twitter. It work fairly well. There are supposedly some more of them but we have some problems with templates in other languages. https://twitter.com/#!/WikimediaItalia/wikiquote/members Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation of three months access to Feminist Economics

2011-08-24 Thread geni
On 23 August 2011 19:09, Slim Virgin slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: Routledge has kindly offered three months free online access to Feminist Economics, a peer-reviewed academic journal, for up to 15 Wikimedians. The sign-up sheet is here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Feminist_Economics

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation of three months access to Feminist Economics

2011-08-24 Thread kgorman
Can anyone provide any info on what the journal carries? are we looking at pure theory or are their case studies? You can see the table of contents for their current issue here: http://www.feministeconomics.org/journal_spotlights/ It's not a perfect answer, but will at least give you some

Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people

2011-08-24 Thread David Goodman
I suspect the only answer you are going to get is that some people or places would need it. What you will not get is any explanation for why the WMF itself should do it. instead of letting those who want it, to do it as they wish outside Wikipedia, as our licensing permits. (You might get the