Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Wikimedia *used* to hold the position that we wouldn't aid China to block > images of the Tianamen Massacre, and went to great lengths to assure > that chinese users of Wikipedia could evade blocks to viewing. I am not > sure you ar

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/12/11 3:45 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > The only other project in a similar situation is > Wikispecies, where any data on species at least conceptually is > welcome in a Wikipedia article on the topic. > This all makes Wikispecies the perfect fork. Its contents largely overlap the relevant Wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Do I miss my bet?

2011-09-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: > >> Without seeing the responses to the "referendum", I am betting you >> have in the comments a huge amount of _committed_ "You are on crack; I >> will never stand for this." c

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: > > >> Wikimedia *used* to hold the position that we wouldn't aid China to block >> images of the Tianamen Massacre, and went to great lengths to assure >> that chinese users of

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 18.09.2011 09:46, schrieb Andre Engels: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen> wrote: > >> Wikimedia *used* to hold the position that we wouldn't aid China to block >> images of the Tianamen Massacre, and went to great lengths to assure >> that chinese users of Wikipedia could

[Foundation-l] robots.txt and archive.org

2011-09-18 Thread Milos Rancic
May someone ask Internet Archive to open histories of the Main Pages of Wikipedias in their Time Machine? If they harvested it at all. Their Time Machine is usually the only exact way to find when early Wikipedias were created, but histories of the pages are blocked because of our robots.txt. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] robots.txt and archive.org

2011-09-18 Thread Daniel ~ Leinad
Hmmm... a few days ago we didn't have any problems to retrieve history (2001-2011) of Main Pages of Polish Wikipedia: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150309409533189.363981.147056473188 - similar should be with other versions :> -- Daniel // Leinad 2011/9/18 Milos Rancic : > May someo

Re: [Foundation-l] robots.txt and archive.org

2011-09-18 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:44, Daniel ~ Leinad wrote: > Hmmm... a few days ago we didn't have any problems to retrieve history > (2001-2011) of Main Pages of Polish Wikipedia: > http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150309409533189.363981.147056473188 > - similar should be with other versions

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Tobias Oelgarte < tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Am 18.09.2011 09:46, schrieb Andre Engels: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen< > cimonav...@gmail.com > >> wrote: > > > >> Wikimedia *used* to hold the position that we wouldn't aid

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen < cimonav...@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay. Is there a commitment on the part of the foundation that they will > help > people using our filtering scheme and the usual browser add-ons to Wmake it > impossible to view material on wikipedia from sch

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: > On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system for > that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach consent. Who > decides whether a page is in a category? Who decides whether a page has an > image? Who decides wheth

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Tobias Oelgarte< > tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Am 18.09.2011 09:46, schrieb Andre Engels: >>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen< >> cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia *u

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 18.09.2011 14:02, schrieb Andre Engels: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen< > cimonav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Okay. Is there a commitment on the part of the foundation that they will >> help >> people using our filtering scheme and the usual browser add-ons to Wmake it

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Yann Forget
2011/9/18 Oliver Koslowski : > Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: >> On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system for >> that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach consent. Who >> decides whether a page is in a category? Who decides whether a page

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Fred Bauder
> 2011/9/18 Oliver Koslowski : >> Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: >>> On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system >>> for >>> that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach >>> consent. Who >>> decides whether a page is in a category? Who decides

Re: [Foundation-l] robots.txt and archive.org

2011-09-18 Thread emijrp
Hi; Oldids are not sorted by date, so, the first edits may have big oldids. Which Wikipedias do you want to explore? You can use the dumps or Toolserver databases to sort revisions by date and extract the oldest ones. I guess that Wikipedias created in 2002-2004, preserve the full history (unless

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Oliver Koslowski
Am 18.09.2011 15:58, schrieb Fred Bauder: > I do support "censorship". There is absolutely no excuse for hosting an > image of Mohammad as a dog, but this is a Rube Goldburg boondoggle. Nothing wrong with hosting that picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muh-hund-original-rondellliten.JPG ).

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 September 2011 14:38, Yann Forget wrote: > At the beginning, I was quite neutral about a filter: I had no idea > how it would work, and I wouldn't use it, but what if somebody else > wants it? > But after reading nearly all comments on this list, I think that the > arguments for a filter do

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:57 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > From Wikimedia's perspective, I think this is "one down, several hundred to > go." Wikimedia has made it clear that its singular focus is the English > Wikipedia. All other Wikipedias are peripheral; all other project types are > abandoned. P

[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Philippines Annual Report

2011-09-18 Thread Josh Lim
Hi everyone, I am pleased to announce that Wikimedia Philippines has finally released its 2010 annual report, which is now available on Meta!  Please take the time to read the report at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMPH_2010_Annual_Report.pdf. We hope that while the 2010 report is rel

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Oliver Koslowski wrote: > Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: > > On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system for > > that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach consent. > Who > > decides whether a page is in a c

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With the strategic plan it is clear and obvious that the WMF intends to expand. It is clear that India and Brazil get serious attention. With the creation of the "localisation team" there is now substantial attention for language issues and language technology. This will make the technologica

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:57 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > >> From Wikimedia's perspective, I think this is "one down, several hundred to >> go." >> Wikimedia has made it clear that its singular focus is the English Wikipedia. >> All other Wikipe

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread Yann Forget
2011/9/18 Andre Engels : > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Oliver Koslowski wrote: > >> Am 18.09.2011 13:56, schrieb Andre Engels: >> > On itself the one who tags the image, but we happen to have a system for >> > that in Wikimedia. It is called discussion and trying to reach consent. >> Who >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Summary of findings from WMF Summer of Research program now available

2011-09-18 Thread Andrew Gray
On 8 September 2011 10:58, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > From what I see, the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages > is just misleading: For instance, one of the most ranking missing articles, > [[Alison Campbell]], has all 5000+ links leading not from other articles, > but from a

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread MZMcBride
Samuel Klein wrote: > Not speaking on behalf of the Foundation, but repeating what Erik said > earlier and pointing to our five-year plan, the WMF is prioritizing > community-driven innovation as one of its core targets for support. Wikimedia has made the English Wikipedia its primary focus. The q

Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

2011-09-18 Thread David Levy
André Engels wrote: > I don't see a difference. I want to show images showing so-and-so, or I do > not want to see them. It's all about saying whether images show so-and-so. In our normal categorization scheme, "so-and-so" might equal "a beach" or "a woman wearing a swimsuit." Such classificatio

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-18 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 16/09/11 20:59, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Wikinews needs to redefine its role. Scooping the big news stories of > the day isn't it ... not as long as Wikipedia can begin developing a I was thinking along the same lines. Science news that aren't dumbed down? ___