http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up
in Italy.
/me claps
Good show, Italy. Knowledge is free.
--
~Keegan
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not
approved. It will be discussed
We'd be nice as well to have it back asap. And we are prompt to do so. But,
please, take into account that the article you linked is actually totally
not accurate, not to say that is just wrong: at the moment the law is
unapproved,
the controversial piece of the law is absolutely unchanged. What
Thanks for sharing!
Michael
2011/10/5 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
Of interest:
Benjamin Mako Hill is giving a talk at the Berkman Center on October
11, entitled: Almost Wikipedia: What Eight Collaborative Encyclopedia
Projects Reveal About Mechanisms of Collective Action
It will be
On 10/05/11 11:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
Speaking as a citizen of a country with a fairly stringently worded
Right of reply law. I don't think it has ever been applied against
an encyclopaedia, or a blog or Usenet thread or anything remotely like
that. I think it is very cogently only
MZMcBride, 06/10/2011 05:13:
Is the grant restricted or unrestricted? (Is there a copy of the agreement
somewhere?)
The WMF said very clearly that they're not accepting restricted grants
any longer, so I assumed it's unrestricted.
Nemo
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Wow, that's great!
On 10/06/2011 05:13 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
Is the grant restricted or unrestricted? (Is there a copy of the
agreement somewhere?)
I'm not sure if it's any more restricted than the summary says:
The purpose of the grant is to fund major investments in the
technology
Andreas Kolbe, 06/10/2011 02:11:
Well, that *is* nuts. Moreover, the 48-hour time period and potential €12,000
fine in the
proposed law are nuts (pity the blogger who has gone on a 2-week holiday).
Yet that
€12,000 fine is not mentioned in the it:WP statement. Being forced to include
a
FYI, meanwhile more than *HALF A MILLION* Italian citizens, in less
than *24 hours*, expressed strong support for it.wiki in the social
network/blogsphere: I think this is an incredible result for the Wiki
movement and philosophy (for Italy, but also at the international
level). It is the most
Thomas Morton, 05/10/2011 00:23:
I'm still a little bit confused how this will impact Wikipedia, though.
The law seems to be clear in identifying the website owner as the person to
contact; which is a US not-for-profit.
Which law? And which law speaks of website owner? Anyone can be asked to
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The purpose of the grant is to fund
major investments in the technology infrastructure that supports Wikipedia
and its sister projects,
Excellent.
Does this mean we can now finally have categorised watchlists? It's an
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Jalo jal...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe your countries are more slender
If there is one thing that cannot be said of the denizens of the
nation where Wikipedia is hosted, it is that they are slender. And we
Brits will be similarly rotund by the end of the decade.
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not
approved. It will be discussed into the parliament camera, then into the
parliament senate. Only if both will accept it without modifications it'll
be valid.
Also, the government may ask for trust at the parliament about
Bod Notbod, 06/10/2011 11:45:
Does this mean we can now finally have categorised watchlists? It's an
idea that people have generally been supportive of when I have
mentioned it on wiki but never gets any actual action. I'd program it
myself if I could. Put simply, imagine you are interested in
Sorry for the cross-posting, but I write here what I have already
submitted to internal.
It seems that there is the majority to put it.wikipedia.org alive
again in the following hours.
The law has not been approved yet but the committee, who has in charge
the proposal, has accepted some
Ray Saintonge, 05/10/2011 10:46:
If they are so fearful they can use pseudonyms. They would then need to
get a legal order from a US court to identify the users.
But all users would need to do so, because a random user or sysop could
be asked to publish the correction/statement. On wiki there
On 6 October 2011 12:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
But all users would need to do so, because a random user or sysop could
be asked to publish the correction/statement. On wiki there was a
discussion about how to globally implement such a switch to clandestine
accounts...
Andreas Kolbe, 05/10/2011 12:49:
Even this corrected version does not seem to be right. As I understand the
proposed law,
the subject would have the right for a statement to be shown, unaltered, on
the page (which
actually would be possible for Wikipedia to do, via a transcluded and
It seems that there is the majority to put it.wikipedia.org alive again in
the following hours.
* IMPORTANT *
it.wikipedia.org has been restored, and we use a large sitenotice.
Anyway, the amendment is not yet approved and there is the possibility (not
so low) that it'll be rejected.
We've
No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 14:01, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.comescreveu:
This doesn't mean that we've misinformed users: prominent jurists agree
that the proposed law is absolutely crazy for Wikipedia and other
websites; and the community had discussed and assessed the effects of
I want to say very clearly that without the provisions included under
Creative Commons 3.0 article 5, it will be very difficult for
volunteer contributors to consider working for a project that makes
them liable to all kinds of complaints. For that reason, the proposed
Indemnity clause of the
Lodewijk, 06/10/2011 14:24:
No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 14:01, Federico Leva (Nemo)
escreveu:
This doesn't mean that we've misinformed users: prominent jurists agree
that the proposed law is absolutely crazy for Wikipedia and other
websites; and the community had discussed and assessed the
Thomas Goldammer, 05/10/2011 09:21:
2011/10/5 Samuel Kleinmeta...@gmail.com:
CLPI has a good practical summary of the law in this area:
http://www.clpi.org/the-law/faq
interesting:
Q. If a charity incorporated in this country has an Australian (for
example) affiliate that lobbies
I mean Wikipedia (or websites like Wikipedia) specific. Italian text will
have to do - Google translate does miracles :) I think what would be really
great is a set of statements/suggestions, so not just by one expert. For
one, the Rodotà statement was not exactly what I was looking for at some
Thomas Morton, 05/10/2011 12:31:
On 5 October 2011 11:20, church.of.emacs.ml
Are you seriously comparing that italien law to the proposed image filter?
Are you aware of the principle of proportionality? What might be okay to
do against a law that would kill Wikipedia is different from what is
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to say very clearly that without the provisions included under
Creative Commons 3.0 article 5, it will be very difficult for
volunteer contributors to consider working for a project that makes
them liable to all kinds
emijrp, 05/10/2011 17:23:
When people reuse content in other websites/blogs/etc, they have to copy the
article text and link to Italian Wikipedia where you can check the entire
history and authors. That is how attribution is given. It is explained here
Did you mean * ** ** **:**?
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:38, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Sondage/Installation_d%27un_Filtre_d%27image
- d.
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I replied at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use#Terms_of_use.2316._Indemnity:_You_don.27t_mean_to_nullify_the_Creative_Commons_terms.2C_do_you_.3F
I think if the Italian Wikipedians fought against an Italian bill of
law trying to make them liable for a large series of complaints,
WereSpielChequers, 05/10/2011 13:51:
Webpages are only permanent if someone keeps hosting them. I can see that
if the Italian Wikipedia was back up someone in Italy might send a note to
the WMF asking them to comply with this Italian law. But if an editor is no
longer active on the site it
As I understand, the change has only been proposed.
Possibly another interesting issue will develop: the italian wiki was
discontinued by a short vote or poll. I suppose the most democratric way to
terminate it would be another vote or poll. How are they gonna have that
poll if they locked
The WIki is back online already. But the village pump page was (at least for
the last day) available.
Lodewijk
No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 18:17, teun spaans teun.spa...@gmail.comescreveu:
As I understand, the change has only been proposed.
Possibly another interesting issue will develop:
Greetings all,
I've noticed that the Donate link in all English Wikimedia projects' sidebars
goes to the following page:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
This is a fine landing page for Wikipedia readers, but if someone from
Wikibooks,
Wiktionary, etc, sees this, he could become
Forwarding to foundation-l.
Comments are welcome on the agenda talk page; suggestions for future
meetings welcome here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Board_meetings
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From: phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:15 AM
Hi,
On 09/13/2011 08:06 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote:
Is that a new feature or was it always there and I just didn't
notice it?
It's a fairly new feature of the mobile re-write.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MobileFrontend/status
If it's a new feature, was it enabled as a result these recent
All,
The election closes in less than an hour. If anyone still needs to vote,
please head over to metawiki and cast your votes.
Regards,
Jyothis.
http://www.Jyothis.net
My Malayalam Wikipedia page http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
Metawiki page
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
I don't read your posts, because (a) I don't trust attachments anyway, and
(b) if you have anything worthwhile to say, and are competent at interacting
on a mailing list, I see no reason why you should not be able to hit the
reply button in your mail program, and it
Church's email worked fine for me. The only attachment was a signature, the
content itself was in normal email form. What mail client are you using?
On Oct 7, 2011 12:27 AM, Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
I don't read your posts, because (a) I don't trust
I use Outlook Express. But, for some reason, some posts do not seem to be
rendered as they should be, whether they are attachments or otherwise. Maybe
that's my fault, but to be honest, I have other stuff to be concerned about,
e.g. my current work on Commons, so with the best will in the
Tempo D. Valse wrote:
I've noticed that the Donate link in all English Wikimedia projects'
sidebars goes to the following page:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
The one in the sidebar? It says Donate to Wikipedia on the English
Wikipedia and currently links to
Hi Tempodivalse,
Right now we're not running our weekly testing on different projects but
during the fundraiser, we do use the sitename instead of putting Wikipedia
banners on the top of other projects. A few people have suggested some
project specific messages, and I think that's great. If you
Hello Wikimedia contributors,
The fundraising team has been testing new messages over the past couple of
months and we're happy to report we've found some new voices that will allow
us to move away from our dependence on Jimmy to appeal to readers for
donations. This year we want the fundraiser
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