Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/25/12 10:30 AM, Castelo wrote: On 25-02-2012 15:58, Michael Peel wrote: Actually, Wikipedia sort of is the place for original content - when it comes to illustrations in articles. Those illustrations are mainly in Commons, with exception of the images in fair use, but linked in the articl

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote: > His most recent comment on the video: " Just found out about WikiNews.org 5 > minutes ago. Whoops. " > > so.. looks like he did this as a mockup and literally didn't know that it > was already a thing. > > Yes, I contacted him and he said: H

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/23/12 5:48 PM, Florence Devouard wrote: But the most difficult ennoying point is simply that most corp archives appear to be a mess. Because companies are bought and sold, information is lost on the way. Because of poor communication between departments. Because staff come and go. And bec

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Gorman
His most recent comment on the video: " Just found out about WikiNews.org 5 minutes ago. Whoops. " so.. looks like he did this as a mockup and literally didn't know that it was already a thing. --- Kevin Gorman User:Kgorman-ucb On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Andrew Lih wrote: > On Mon, Feb

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 February 2012 20:18, Nathan wrote: > > It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or > > link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of > > Wikinews, but I'm not sure how it's a thr

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 February 2012 20:18, Nathan wrote: > It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or > link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of > Wikinews, but I'm not sure how it's a threat? Yes, it is clearly talking about our Wikinews. It's very o

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Nathan wrote: > It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or > link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of > Wikinews, but I'm not sure how it's a threat? > In the video, the motto and the screenshot have

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Etienne Beaule
Will not be competing that well, we are number one and on google, and yahoo, it does not show the new WikiNews. On 12-02-27 4:03 PM, "Jason Safoutin" wrote: > This is interesting. Upon my daily sift through Google News for agencies > that might post Wikinews articles, I came across this (A vide

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Nathan
It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of Wikinews, but I'm not sure how it's a threat? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-27 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > Hi Castelo, > > just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10 > examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I > hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those > examples wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/22/12 11:40 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: Material on Wikipedia can be divided into "fact" and "opinion". The latter of these is, perhaps confusingly, the simplest to address; because opinion, viewpoints and perception can quite easily be collated and summarised. The only real difficulty exists

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/26/12 2:58 PM, M. Williamson wrote: Ziko, you raise the subject of "illiterates"... I feel that it is blatant discrimination to assert that the only way illiterates can create sources worthy of citation on Wikipedia is either by becoming literate, or by being interviewed by a literate perso