Ziko, you raise the subject of illiterates... I feel that it is blatant
discrimination to assert that the only way illiterates can create sources
worthy of citation on Wikipedia is either by becoming literate, or by being
interviewed by a literate person. This to me indicates a value judgement,
disclaimers that we are not
intended as a children's site and that adults should make careful use of
their own judgement about letting their children read Wikipedia. It is not
our responsibility.
2012/2/9 Andreas K. jayen...@gmail.com
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:52 AM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Yes, and some people don't like the fact that we tell the truth about, say,
the Taiwan situation (or at least we try our very best to), or the
Tienanmen Square protests of 1989.
I think it's very stupid to equate people don't like this to this is a
problem.
So yes, the situation is still
, when people don't like
what you're doing, you can point to your principles and say Hey, we've
always been this way and you get credibility from having had the same
policy or position all along.
2012/2/6 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Yes, and some people don't like the fact that we tell the truth
How about,
What we are doing now: In response to community outcry, we have decided
not to repost such banners, rather than talking down to the community and
telling them they have misunderstood people's intentions.
I'm tired of the Foundation making unpopular decisions and then talking
down to
Which article was it?
2011/11/19 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com
Not sure if this is appropriate for this list, but just for lulz. A
finnish member of
parliament just got caught for his speech being a word for word piece of
snippets from a Finnish Wikipedia article. No
I have not participated much in the Occupy protest in my city, but I can
report that Pancho Ramos Stierle, who I spent time in jail with here in
Phoenix because of our protests over the discriminatory immigration law
that went into effect last year, was arrested in Oakland as part of the
Occupy
So... Wikilove is enabled on all Wikis only by consensus... except en.wp,
where it was pushed out with no consensus and as far as I can tell, no
research yet proving it had any results?
2011/10/29 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
Hoi,
Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem,
If you don't even think that is a comparable situation, then you clearly
don't understand at all what some people think the image filter is all
about.
2011/10/5 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
If you even think that is a comparable situation, then you clearly don't
understand at all what
Jalo, it's all about perception: perceived effects and perceived
consequences. People's reactions are based on their perceptions and
judgements, since we're not robots. So if a group of people perceives it to
be equally bad, they may take an equal action, regardless of whether or not
you agree
Another important point here is that Wikipedia is an international project;
there are speakers of Italian in Switzerland, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and
in smaller numbers in lots of other countries who may not care so much what
happens in Italian politics. If the UK proposed a new law to shut
Editors aren't the only people who use Wikipedia.
2011/10/4 Jalo jal...@gmail.com
Is the Kiribati based community (or a part of it) of Wikipedians allowed
to block en.wikipedia.org for x hours because a new Kiribatian (sp?)
media law might come?
Mathias
You're right, 2-3% of
+1
2011/9/21 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
+1
_
*Béria Lima*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 21
from ... check the browser
language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
Thanks,
GerardM
2011/9/28 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't
speak English, coming at it from the front page
from ... check the browser
language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match.
Thanks,
GerardM
2011/9/28 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who
don't
speak English, coming at it from the front
of
Dutch. There is no reason to not have a language selector like on Commons,
or some kind of list or bar somewhere on the mainpage to let users switch.
2011/9/29 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
M. Williamson, the only way to see the Main Page in other language is log
in, going to http
Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said
Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español at the top of the page.
Doesn't obligate the user to change, and the language chooser bar offers the
user a plethora of other choices in case the language guess was wrong. Would
be nice
selector but it was removed at some point. I added it back now.
2011/9/29 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com:
Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said
Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español at the top of the page.
Doesn't obligate the user to change
Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't
speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't speak
English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a page
with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least
Holy ancient thread revival, Batman!
This seems like a good idea... but in the case of Wikisource, wouldn't that
already be covered by multilingual Wikisource?
2011/9/20 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com
I think we may want a historic texts wikisource/wikibooks particularly
for
texts in
A dead human bodies category that excludes mummies because we're not
idiots is, by definition, not neutral.
2011/9/19 Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Tobias Oelgarte
tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote:
We discussed this already and came to the
...@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:49 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly
willing
to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a
pedophile says We should put a picture of a naked child on every
Kurmanji, so there is no reason it should be located at anywhere except the
code for Kurmanji, which is kmr.
2011/9/17 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:35, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
If all Kurdish editors had been in favor of having a Kurdish Wikipedia
It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of
pending name changes.
As far as codes representing macrolanguages, ku: is clearly a different
situation than ar.wp. Arabic is a group of languages with a single unifying
macro standard, which speakers of all Arabic languages
/16 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
2011/9/16 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com:
It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of
pending name changes.
The problem with the request is that it's not in the scope of Language
committee. Renaming zh-min-nan into nan
/16 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in
supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to
those
of a group of Turkish soldiers who
Only the English Wikipedia, and while en.wp is our most successful project
so far, there are other successful Wikipedias that were formed only through
community efforts with no paid editors.
2011/9/14 Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 07:17:49PM +0100, Thomas Morton
Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys
doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is
supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but actually looks more like a
piece of stale bread? Wow.
2011/9/13 Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk
Are there
Wiktionary is useful; perhaps you're referring to my comments, which were
not about Wiktionary at all. Wikiquote definitely does not belong as a
sister project. Maybe it is a shining beacon in the cesspool of internet
quote sites; well, there are lots of things the rest of the Internet does
2011/9/13 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
On 13 September 2011 18:23, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys
doing it that can only be noticed if you
I do believe it means exactly that.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers includes all users with at
least 1 edit in the last 30 days; that seems like a really low threshold
though. I took the liberty of collecting some data based on that page:
- 23 users with at least 30 edits in the
that people *should* support and care about sister projects just because
they're sister projects, without proving their usefulness or worthiness of
our support.
2011/9/12 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
I do believe it means exactly that.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers includes all
Kim, before you mentioned this was just a personality problem, but it seems
to go beyond that. It seems to be a structural problem augmented by
personality problems (I can think of a couple people in particular, not
naming names). The structural problems are clear to everybody but certain
prolific
I would be interested to know what the most wanted pages would be if all
links from templates were excluded. If I introduce a redlink into a template
that's transcluded on 2000 pages, it immediately becomes a most wanted
article. I'd also be very interested in seeing this data for other
Wow, you pat yourself on the back more times in that e-mail than I ever
thought possible in a single message. So you think Wikinews is the greatest
thing, and that us outsiders know not what we are talking about and don't
have a right to an opinion since we're not full-time Wikinewsies? Great,
Note that Google News, a popular news aggregator, often includes a link to
the Wikipedia article about breaking news and recent events, but never links
to Wikinews. Wikipedia is already largely accomplishing in many high-profile
cases what Wikinews aims to do. Also note that Chile is considered by
Gerard, the term incubating wikis is confusing for reasons I already
explained. Users with little experience are very unlikely to know about
http://test.wikipedia.org/ so I see little potential for actual confusion.
We have been calling Wikis on incubator test wikis for ages (since BEFORE
2. Do you have a suggestion as an alternative for the term incubating
wikis? Is the more often used test wiki better?
Test wikis is much better. It has been used since before incubator even
existed, it is easy to understand, and I don't see a downside.
Or, Rui, perhaps you have plenty of original thoughts and are a very
intelligent person and you post all of your original thoughts, but it seems
a bit stupid and like a waste of space to say thank you for saying that or
i agree with you every time you agree with someone and have no
disagreement
Rui, I meant the impersonal you, not the direct you.
2011/8/10 Rui Correia correia@gmail.com
M. Williamson
Obviousy I post my thoughts where these make a contribution. It says so
below leave a comment or leave it alone.
Rui
2011/8/10 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Or, Rui
Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages
on
http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually
found.
Mark,
Could you please
This is of course essentially what we did in the Good Old Days, but somebody
(or somebodies?) decided we needed More Rules, so now we have them, and as
is often the case with too many rules, they've constricted what was once a
free-flowing process and limited almost all new wikis to a very small
This is an improvement in many ways, but how does it help the average user?
How are people supposed to know that XYZ code points to XYZ language? Right
now we don't have any high-traffic pages pointing to incubator; it seems
less likely that say, en.wp main page will link to every single test
I have a feeling very, very, very few French speakers find the French
Wikipedia through that route. Most people probably find a Wikipedia in their
language at http://www.wikipedia.org/ if they don't already know the URL. I
doubt many speakers will google Central Atlas Tamazight Wikipedia in
Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on
http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually
found. How many out of the 5 million speakers of Central Atlas Tamazight do
you think are aware that the ISO code for their language is TZM? Probably
To anyone who's interested... on a request to close a Wiki on meta, we were
just debating the problems that exist with Incubator, when one of the
bureaucrats from Incubator asked something along the lines of wait, there's
a problem with Incubator? So I went on a little quest to prove how
difficult
And what if readers don't understand Spanish? As a translator, I have to say
I am strongly against the idea that a translation counts as original
research. Translating quotes has been practiced in academia for a very long
time, and just in the last month I must've read several papers with quotes
discussions, it's cool as long as I end
my emails with a serious sentence???
Ryan Kaldari
On 7/27/11 4:53 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
Yes, Elizabeth is clearly not a troll, her suggestion: I still think a
research project in emesis in the global south or something would have
suited english
Nathan, I think that Raul Gutierrez, Maria Alameda and Elizabeth are all
the same person, somebody trolling the list. While we occasionally get
single-issue new posters starting topics, it's rare to see them pop up in
the middle of a topic just to attack one user. Something fishy is definitely
Well then, Ray, en.wp would not be able to use non-English sources since all
translation is interpretation and would therefore be considered OR which is
not allowed at Wikipedia.
2011/7/27 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net
On 07/27/11 12:42 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
David how is an exact quote a
What is your intention here, Elizabeth, besides trolling?
2011/7/26 whothis whoth...@gmail.com
Looks like an excellent waste of effort.
Maybe the problem of publishing non-publishable oral sources occurred to
someone on the team. Anyway the english wikipedia seems to be the
appropriate
2011/7/12 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:47, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Milos, it is a fantasy of many that is not supported by research, that
just
because people are rich or have technology, their language will magically
not die.
I wouldn't say
2011/7/14 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 01:56, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Present research actually indicates the decline of linguistic diversity
has
accelerated in the last 10-15 years, possibly due to the exact factor you
May you point to some
12, 2011 at 00:34, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
No, Milos, my reasoning is not of the industrial age. It is backed up
by
first-hand experience and by research. People who live in cities are by
nature a part of a larger urban community, with few exceptions (if there
is
some kind
, but when
your great-grandmother was bilingual in the minority language and the LWC,
it can be almost guaranteed, in an urban setting, that you are monolingual
in the LWC.
2011/7/12 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
Milos, it is a fantasy of many that is not supported by research, that just
because
Rather perhaps you mean: Argentinians got chapter and Arabic got
Wikiversity? Since the Wikiversity site seems to be in Arabic, which would
be a bit odd if it was for Argentines.
2011/7/12 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:26, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
wrote:
By hopefully having a Wikipedia in all 700 languages that will be around
then.
Language death makes me really sad, and there are lots of things that are
being done about it, and more should be done, but I'm not sure it's the
Foundation's job, just like it's not our job to save endangered species
To be honest, I don't think 10k is a fair threshold. Many languages with
hundreds of thousands of speakers will likely go extinct by 2050, due to
high levels of bilingualism and low levels of children learning the
language. This language shift is particularly acute on the American
continent, where
Yes, and I'm sure Wikipedia also has lots of copyrighted and dubious
content, as hard as we try...
2011/7/8 Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 08:26, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
2. Million Books Project http://www.ulib.org/
LOTS of copyrighted and dubious
Well, I just think any repository that lets some non-free works slip through
the cracks by accident, can't suddenly be disqualified unless we're ready to
disqualify Wikipedia too. So what category do we fit into that they do not?
2011/7/8 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
On 8 July 2011 09:20, M
Some of these actually already have Wikipedias:
Meadow Mari
Yakut (aka Sakha)
Lak
Balkar (aka Karachay-Balkar)
Yiddish, Eastern (= standard Yiddish, Western Yiddish is the one we are
missing but it has much fewer speakers; according to Ethnologue there are
only 5,400 around the world)
In
Professor Machado:
This is an interesting allegation, I would be quite interested to see
some examples of this taking place.
-m.
2011/5/31 Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt:
Now that my attention has been drawn to that section, I wonder if
that explains why the academic projects were not
I'm not sure any of us had the stated intention of helping you. What,
exactly, were we expected to be helping you with?
2011/5/26 Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt:
Thank you guys. I knew you wouldn't let me down.
You outdid yourselves. On this illustrious
mailing list where from «you
Having a test project doesn't necessarily mean community interest;
having a test project with dozens of articles might indicate that. In
many cases, users with no relation to the language (in particular,
User:Jose77) have started test wikis with text all in English for
hundreds of languages. So
When words are from the same root, the same character is generally
used regardless of modern pronunciation. In Traditional Chinese,
phonetic elements are mostly based on older pronunciations which might
not make sense in all modern Sinitic languages; sometimes in
Simplified Chinese these are
Clearly, at least at this point, it is probably unreasonable to target
any languages with less than 100,000 native speakers; of course, if
there is community interest I think they should get Wikipedias, but
the 70 million or so human beings who speak languages with less than
100k speakers are
Thank you for the informative message. If it is possible, may I be made an
observer on the langcom list? Do I need to apply for such a position?
Thanks
2011/5/17 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
As you should know, thanks to Wikimedia Germany, Language committee had
its first real-life meeting
2011/3/9 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
I have no objection to people using this list for announcements and
QAs, but if people are wanting proper discussion then I strongly
recommend sticking to English.
I have no objection to people having discussions on this list in any
language, and
priority list that they think we should use. :-) The metrics that
Mark suggests are a great idea. Number of speakers, number of
monolingual (or native) speakers, and size of the editing community
would be great things to consider.
This may seem like nitpicking but I think it's an important
Gerard, that seems like quite a bit of money, I'd be curious to know
what exactly that would be spent on, in detail.
2011/3/5 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
The Wikimedia Foundation is a five hundred pound gorilla in the field of
building language resources in the languages
2011/3/5 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:
will enable more people to read them. This, however, also poses the
danger of perpetuating current linguistic conflicts. For example,
translating the WMF blog into Chinese will allow a lot of people who
know Chinese, but not English, read
them in
touch with Gerard and I'm confident they will be able to at least
incorporate the knowledge.
Best regards,
Lodewijk
2011/2/24 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com
To me, this is still a problem. If the committee never made any
decisions and instead relied 100% on the opinions of others
To me, this is still a problem. If the committee never made any
decisions and instead relied 100% on the opinions of others, then
perhaps the composition wouldn't matter. However, think about this: if
you gather a committee to make decisions about agriculture and recruit
only from European
How about this:
Over the past several years, new projects have been approved and
created improving our coverage of world languages. However, the vast
majority of this growth since the formation of Langcom has been in
European languages - a quick sampling reveals new Wikipedias in Rusyn
(Eastern
Virgilio:
Many thanks for the information. I have, after reviewing the evidence
you presented, casted my vote in support of Peter Symonds' adminship
on Meta.
Muito obrigado pela informação. Depois de avaliar a evidência
apresentada, votei a favor da proposta da concessão de poderes
Wikipedia was started on that date, wasn't it? True, other Wikipedias
didn't exist yet, but I don't think that makes it any less
significant. If you speak a non-English language as your native tongue
and wish therefore to not make any fuss about the date, feel free, but
I'm certain it won't just
Before signing off, and before I forget, let me
ask another trivial question. It has been a long,
long time since you have opened a grammar of any
language, hasn't it? That's an easy guess,
Watch the personal attacks. I read grammars every day, it's part of my
work. Just last week I had a
No, br.wikipedia.org is the Breton Wikipedia. I think Virgilio is
referring to pt.wp as the Brazilian Wikipedia because it is or he
perceives it to be dominated by Brazilians.
-m.
2010/12/6 Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.pt
Also from your talk page:
A partir de 1 de janeiro de 2009, as normas do Acordo Ortográfico de
1990 passaram a ser usadas de forma preferencial na Wikipédia de
língua portuguesa, passando a ser redigidas em conformidade todas as
páginas oficiais da Wikipédia (menus, políticas, recomendações,
Yes, sure, but a lot of smaller villages and towns in many countries
do not have well-established English names. Besides, what constitutes
the English name is a matter of debate - according to law, the
official name of Kolkata in English is Kolkata... but then, couldn't
Germany pass a law saying
The issue is that this book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6131076278/
is a direct copy of the English Wikipedia article.
There are many more books like this made by the same company.
2010/11/1 KIZU Naoko aph...@gmail.com:
Well while Ryan and Fred look having a valid concern, on this
Whatever happened to freedom of speech? Encyclopedia Dramatica is a
parody site. Plenty of people have tried to shut them down before,
it's unlikely to ever happen (and in my opinion, should never happen).
If they have an offensive article about you, trying to get rid of it
will probably make it
Gutza, the problem with such a solution is inequality of numbers.
Every time this has been discussed previously, such forums have been
dominated by Romanians from Romania with very little input from
Moldovans and 0 input from Transnistrians. This is unfair and steps
should be taken to remedy any
2010/10/12 Gutza gu...@moongate.ro:
Mark,
You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this
project for several years under nickname Node ue. You have fought in
the Moldovan language article on en.wp for years, and you have
single-handedly created and defended the
or not? If you do have an opinion, what is it?
Thank you,
Gutza
On 13-Oct-10 03:36, M. Williamson wrote:
2010/10/12 Gutza gu...@moongate.ro:
Mark,
You are a veteran in Wikipedia matters -- you have been involved in this
project for several years under nickname Node ue. You have fought
Gutza, your #2 statement does not follow, Cyrillic has been and is
currently used, including in schools, for the Eastern
Romance/Daco-Romanian/Romanian/Moldovan/whatever variety spoken in all
or some parts of Moldova (and/or, depending on your chosen political
reality, the Pridnestrovian Moldavian
2010/10/10 Zugravu Gheorghe zugravu.gheor...@gmail.com:
On 06.10.2010 02:22, M. Williamson wrote:
Marcus Buck wrote:
Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_schools_in_Transnistria.
They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does
everything to stop them.
Marcus
Peter, I've never heard of Wikipedia sentencing anybody to prison. I
can't support such a comparison between blocking and real-life prison.
Have you ever been jailed yourself? It is not fun. I would much rather
be blocked from all Wikimedia projects forever than spend a week in
prison, especially
Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or
doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be
added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya, with
special exceptions, and several other minor mistakes, but that isn't
anything to do with the
2010/10/5 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
Technically it is easier to transliterate from Cyrillic. So when
transliteration works in a round robin fashion, it does not really matter in
what script people edit. It will only be stored in one script. The choice
for a script can be
05.10.2010 21:03, hett M. Williamson schreven:
Marcus, thank you for the test. I don't think anybody doubts or
doubted that this is possible - of course a few more rules need to be
added, for example ea is almost always converted to cyrillic Ya, with
special exceptions, and several other minor
Marcus Buck wrote:
Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_schools_in_Transnistria.
They want to switch to Latin since long but the government does
everything to stop them.
Marcus, that is a tiny minority of Moldovans in Transnistria, and that
article has many POV problems as well (I gave
Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are
arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine, but
ONLY so long as it allows people to read AND contribute, rather than
just being read-only as proposed by Marcus. My other contention is
that if this is not
or anger of a particular group of people.
-m.
2010/10/5 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:26 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
Nathan, perhaps there is a communication error here. GerardM and I are
arguing for the same thing, which is a transliteration engine
:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think it's right to delete content just because someone
doesn't like it without creating any sort of alternative. In addition,
I don't see how ro.wp community support would be needed if a separate
subdomain were used
2010/10/4 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
Is there any opposition to naming such a temporary project ro-cyrl?
In your proposal, the converter would eventually be available (as a
user pref) on ro.wp?
I agree that it should be called ro-cyrl as mo is no longer considered
a valid ISO code, but
That is a questionable assumption. Mo.wp's sitenotice explains that if
you'd prefer to view Moldovan content in Latin, the official alphabet
of the Republic of Moldova, you may find it at ro.wp.
I am willing to bet that most of the people who have signed these
petitions will be upset if any
2010/10/4 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com:
alternate script of Romanian (i.e. mo.wp vs. ro-cyrl.wp). As for
linguistic rights... Not really relevant, is it? But I guess the
How is it not relevant? To me, that is at the very heart of this case:
the right of a language community to exist and for us to
:03 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
That is a questionable assumption. Mo.wp's sitenotice explains that if
you'd prefer to view Moldovan content in Latin, the official alphabet
of the Republic of Moldova, you may find it at ro.wp.
I am willing to bet that most of the people who have
Zachary, contrary to characterizations made by others on this thread,
that is exactly what happened. The Wiki was active, there were users
creating articles, but unfortunately political considerations took top
priority in a community vote that was held, which essentially pitted
Russians against
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