Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM, emijrp wrote: > By the way, not all German Wikipedians/readers are under German laws. Most are. And if German Wikipedia community believes that in order for de.wp to be more useful it should be made redistributable under the law of most German-speaking countries,

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Nathan wrote: > Which activities are these? Copyright and internet law lobbying. --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Nathan wrote: > If the WMF plans for grants to be the interim method of funding for > developing chapters (aside from that raised independently by the chapters > themselves) then I expect that they will tweak the process to account for > the specific issues involve

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Risker wrote: > Bearing that in mind, one of the concerns that came to my mind even then was > that many of them did not make it explicitly clear that XX percent of the > donation was going to and independent local chapter. There was also a > significant lack of fi

Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > Admins should never be given powers over content.  Not now, not then, not > ever. > Admins have no business being involved in content of any type ever :) > In every possible universe. Oh, sure. Especially when the content is "HELLO I CAN EDIT TH

Re: [Foundation-l] Astonished by the so-called principle of least astonishment

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Teofilo wrote: > B) Is there a philosopher aboard the plane ? Did-it not occur to > anybody in the board that astonishment and knowledge are synonymous ? > If you are against astonishment, you are against knowledge. Hello Teofilo, Imagine I open http://en.wikiped

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Béria Lima wrote: > If they do revoke (which they can, because do report are part of Chapter > Agreement), will be also a private discussion. I do understand your people > curiosity to know what they discusses, but all the relevant info are public. > Only particula

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Béria Lima wrote: > I sugguest you to go tough chapters report and ask what they are doing with > the money they receive in Fundraising. They need to be transparent about > what they are doing, but WMF does not have a "policy" status over that. Well, right now man

Re: [Foundation-l] About the low-hanging fruit

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > this would be 10 years of my work. Note that this is just a narrow topic > which does not overlap with my professional interest (I am a theoretical > physicist specializing in nanoscience). In this field, I am just an amateur > (may be s

Re: [Foundation-l] Can it get any worse?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > Of course. No doubt about it. We have now reached a level beyond > personal attacks. Now my name is used as a thread. So much for "focus > on the comment, not the person making the comment." Pity you prefer to assume bad faith (I'

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Casey Brown wrote:> > This *is* a multilingual list.  All languages are welcome here. Ты это серьёзно? Мне кажется, письме на двадцатом Google Translate всем изрядно надоест. К тому же как быть с просторечиями и фразеологизмами, на которых автоматические переводчи

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > Or we could just use the SecurePoll extension that is used for board > elections and enwiki ArbCom elections.  The extension would bar people > who did not meet the requirements from voting at all. Can we keep the election open while using the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia "Storyteller" job opening

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, David Gerard wrote: > You appear to be generalising from your personal preferences to the > world here. This is a common fallacy and a really bad idea in general. I have heard numerous complains from other volunteers who thought that WMF is spending its money irra

Re: [Foundation-l] Moral rights

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Teofilo wrote: > In my opinion, the people who want to attack this, are on a sloppery > slope where the next step is when they request you to waive your human > rights. Are you quite serious? --vvv ___ foundation-l mai

Re: [Foundation-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

More thoughts. I always viewed wikitext vs. WYSIWYG dilemma as similar to LaTeX vs. Microsoft Word one. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

I have thought about WYSIWYG editor for Wikipedia and found it technically impossible. The main and key problem of WYSIWIG are templates. You have to understand that templates are not single element of Wikipedia syntax, they are integral part of page markup. You do not insert "infobox template", yo

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for a moratorium on all new software developments

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Teofilo wrote: > Conclusion : Because more software means more harm, I call for a > moratorium (1 year? 6 months ?) on all new software developpements. > During that time the developpers should be allowed to repair only > obvious and urgent bugs. A brief examinatio

Re: [Foundation-l] The Border Control

On 08/22/2010 09:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > ... I join this request. Also, could you please give the Russian name > of this policy? I edit the Russian Wikipedia every now and then and i > don't remember ever encountering it. (I must note that i barely edit > outside the article space in ru.wp.

Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource, It was actually Russian Wikibooks. > when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking > users arbitrarily. He removed Foundation banners

Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > PS I have suspended my participation in all WMF projects and activities > until the issue has been resolved. Are you blackmailing us? It's no use. --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list founda

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing my departure from the Wikimedia Foundation

7;m able to express my appreciation for your work; you are invaluable. Good luck with theology. Victor Vasiliev Grateful Volunteer Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

On 07/17/2010 06:57 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Piss Christ was an artistic-political controversy. Oh, and Jyllands-Posten wasn't? --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

On 07/17/2010 04:39 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > First: There are no authentic images of Mohammad extant. There are no authentic images of most characters from the Bible. Yet I believe at least 1 % of works of art on Commons contain them. --vvv ___ founda

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

On 06/28/2010 01:00 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > I make my changes, and move on, and never look back. Thus, I never weep > over the massacre made on my beautiful workmanship. Weeping does not turn > into gnashing of teeth, and does not proceed into daggers of vengeance, then > to the remorse

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board resolution commissioning study and recommendations

On 06/24/2010 10:40 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > I recommend that people not confuse "educational" with "pedagogical" or > try to divorce its interpretation from the context of the particular > project. Historical records have educational value, for example, even > when those records are not created f

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board resolution commissioning study and recommendations

On 06/24/2010 10:20 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > 4. We do expect material in our projects to be educational in nature, >> and any material that is not educational should be removed. I still believe such a statement imply that most of Wikisource content will have to be deleted if remove all "non-edu

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

I may suggest two easy ways how it may be solved technically: * Introduction of a special namespace on a "larger" Wikipedia. * Introduction of s subdomain (e.g. simple.de.wikipedia.org) with shared admins (that should be simple with SUL). I believe there is no need for seperate set of admins for s

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Michael Snow wrote: > If you don't know the history of racial issues in the US, you might not > realize just how serious a subject lynching is. In that cultural > context, it is not something to be joked about. Your post is a brilliant example of agressive disrespe

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > The original intent of the UX team, as I understand it, was to help > readers find essential (frequently clicked) elements in the navigation > more easily by collapsing less essential ones. This is wrong approach of reworking sidebar. To do it

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

Hello! What should be my course of action if I find that the replacement of the old 3D logo with a new "wannabe-Web-2.0" melted circle offends my aesthetic sense to the degree inexpressible in any human language? --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list f

Re: [Foundation-l] "Filtering" ourselves is pointless

On 05/11/2010 12:25 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Any attempt to "filter" ourselves is not addressing the fact that the > images exist at all on Commons. +1. I suggest to ignore them. Or perhaps someone should write more nice things in the article about FOX news (maintaining NPOV, of course). --vvv

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

> Think future, not past. Think project, not Jimmy. We do think future: if Jimmy had already carelessly intervened twice and caused controversies both time, how can we except the story will not repeat. We do think project: if we already had careless interventions with desysopping, users retiring a

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Ting Chen wrote: > Commons, Wikiquote and Wikisource has by themselves no educational > value. They gain their educational value in the way that they provide > repositories for the other WMF projects. What about Wikinews? What educational value does it have? --vvv

Re: [Foundation-l] Where things stand now

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > We were about to be smeared in all media as hosting hardcore pornography > and doing nothing about it. Do you understand that not all images you deleted were hardcore pornography? What was the reason of wheel warring on them? --vvv __

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Michael Snow wrote: > Having said that, the Wikimedia projects are intended to be educational > in nature, and there is no place in the projects for material that has > no educational or informational value. I'd like to point out that we already have a project whe

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

It's another time we have a problem which would hypothetically fall into the scope of some "global arbcom", but since it does not exist, I'm still not sure there's the correct way to handle such situations. I hope that Jimbo and Board will be able to make things settle down. Petition [1] seems to b

Re: [Foundation-l] Projekt: OpenCritics (let's free subjective content, too!!)

Sage Ross wrote: > I think this is an excellent, long overdue idea and something > Wikimedia should be interested in. I was actually thinking of > proposing something like this at strategy.wikimedia.org (and may still > do so). > I don't think that creating such a project within Wikimedia would

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Jaska Zedlik writes: > Hi! > > It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow > some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The > question is what are these policies? > I believe all projects should follow