Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-21 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 05:56, Risker wrote: > The rules for editors:[1] > > You may vote from any one registered account you own on a Wikimedia wiki > (you may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you own). To > qualify, this one account must: > >   - not be blocked on more than one pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-20 Thread Risker
On 20 August 2011 23:38, Milos Rancic wrote: > I hold 7 votes, at the end: one real account, five bots and one of my > auxiliary accounts -- not used for years -- have got right to vote. I > have one more account, but I don't think that I made 10 edits with > that one. > > The rules for editors:

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-20 Thread Milos Rancic
I hold 7 votes, at the end: one real account, five bots and one of my auxiliary accounts -- not used for years -- have got right to vote. I have one more account, but I don't think that I made 10 edits with that one. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundat

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lodewijk, 20/08/2011 12:16: > Maybe we could catch this discussion on wiki - it is an ever returning > issue, and the lessons could be valuable for other campaigns too. Andrew has already produced a very useful summary on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/SecurePoll#Email_spam Nemo __

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-20 Thread Lodewijk
Maybe we could catch this discussion on wiki - it is an ever returning issue, and the lessons could be valuable for other campaigns too. Lodewijk 2011/8/20 Milos Rancic > (It seems that mail server is not functioning properly. I've got > "local delivery failed". Trying again or tomorrow.) > > O

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread Milos Rancic
(It seems that mail server is not functioning properly. I've got "local delivery failed". Trying again or tomorrow.) On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 04:14, Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> While it is not a big deal for me to get six emails (including one i

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > While it is not a big deal for me to get six emails (including one in > Polish) instead of once, I want to say that I already added pattern > for my bot accounts at the Wikimedia nomail list and it existed at > Friday morning there, at least [

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 14:29, Andrew Garrett wrote: > I've just started sending out over 750,000 emails to folks who are > eligible to vote in our Wikimedia Referendum. I've learned from past > mailouts in trying to exclude more bots, multiple accounts and folks > who've already voted. However, i

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread phoebe ayers
Every time we've run an election of any kind with emails, to the best of my knowledge, the email has caused a huge jump in participation. This time, sending the email led to an additional 5000 votes overnight, which more than doubled the total vote count. I don't have the numbers to hand, but we s

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, Maybe we shouldn't e-mail every user every time there is a vote. There has never been a run that didn't cause any problems and like Andrew was saying elsewhere they know the system doesn't check for global blocks and multible blocks. So there will be a lot of false positives. And a lot of pe

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Referendum 2011 mailout — issues

2011-08-19 Thread Andrew Garrett
Hi all, I've just started sending out over 750,000 emails to folks who are eligible to vote in our Wikimedia Referendum. I've learned from past mailouts in trying to exclude more bots, multiple accounts and folks who've already voted. However, if you receive an email which doesn't apply to you (fo