, November 25, 2008 11:27:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Geoffrey,
We came here, on this list, looking for other opinions. Looking for any
kind
of light.
We don't really need that you *make* somethink, but we need your expertise,
we need your view, your
misunderstanding?
Geoffrey
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Jimmy, again, the problem isn't personal. Please, dont't try to take this
way.
-- Porantim
2008/11/25 Jimmy Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Porantim wrote:
The point here is: Thomas
Ziko,
Maybe the problem is my very poor english and I can't explain what I really
think.
There is *no* Wikimedia organisation in Brazil. There is no allegation
about nothing. There is facts about *proposed* chapter.
I suggest you to read the messas in beggining of this thread.
Exept Jimb,
This subject line is very strange to me: A chapter without Wikimedians. A
member of a Wikimedia organisation is a Wikimedian by definition, he is
someone who supports with his fee and his invested sparetime the Wikimedia
goals.
If someone calls a fellow member a non Wikimedian, this is at least
2008/11/26 Porantim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem don't is people with no edits participate of the chapter, the
problem is deny editors to participate.
Sounds pretty much like an allegation to me. Make it hard.
Ziko
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Porantim wrote:
The problem don't is people with no edits participate of the chapter, the
problem is deny editors to participate.
Porantim, I hear what you are saying and I agree with you. There should
never be a chapter which denies that participation of editors. I'll go
even further:
;
Geoffrey Plourde
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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:11:39 AM
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Ziko,
Maybe the problem is my very
: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Luiz Augusto wrote:
This is what we need: to stop the current attempt and start it again
Why?
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Porantim wrote:
When Jimmy puts his personal feelings as the unique argument, no more have
to say. When he
Luiz Augusto wrote:
This is what we need: to stop the current attempt and start it again
Why?
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Porantim wrote:
The point here is: Thomas is one of the people who deny the debate. This is
the fact.
Of course I want Thomas close to us, fighting with us, but I cant't believe
in dictatorship.
If you really want to help us, you can speak with your friend Thomas about
those problemas.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:40:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Jimmy, again, the problem isn't personal. Please, dont't try to take this
way.
-- Porantim
2008/11/25 Jimmy Wales [EMAIL
:12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
Jimbo, look, nobody here are in doubt about the honesty of this or those
person.
The discussion here is not about the people, is about the positions. Is
about the actions.
Sorry, Jimbo, but I believe, nobody here really can
disruptive.
From: Jimmy Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:42:35 AM
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Luiz Augusto wrote:
This is what we
Porantim wrote:
Jimmy, again, the problem isn't personal. Please, dont't try to take this
way.
No, I don't think the problem is personal. I think it's a
misunderstanding, and you requested that I talk to Thomas about it. I will.
--Jimbo
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, this is starting to appear disruptive.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:42:35 AM
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Luiz Augusto
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Florence Devouard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it is not appropriate that Wikimedia Brasil is listed (and
described) as a non-profit organization if it is not yet incorporated:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Local_chapters.
I disagree, it's a list of
2008/11/24 Casey Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Florence Devouard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it is not appropriate that Wikimedia Brasil is listed (and
described) as a non-profit organization if it is not yet incorporated:
2008/11/24 Florence Devouard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Luiz Augusto wrote:
First, is that wrong that a chapter is made in majority or entirety by
non-editors ? I would tend to think it is unfortunate, but not wrong. A
person may be part of the wikimedia mouvement without editing a lot. The
person
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