Glad to read this question here, have often wondered about this myself.
User:Emelian1977, an African American PhD student named Brenton Stewart,
conducted a survey of Black American Wikipedians in 2008. I can only find a
short write-up of his study online:
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If the Foundation wanted to enquire, or do something about the relative
dearth of African American editors, a good person to contact would probably
be Henry Louis Gates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates
He's a Harvard professor, famous for having been arrested on the front
porch
jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
So I think one reason why we don't see more diversity is that the
established, predominantly white user base is giving editors from other
backgrounds a pretty hard time!
You could also add in the photo of the bare chested African adolescent that was
proposed as
On 22 November 2010 11:10, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Glad to read this question here, have often wondered about this myself.
User:Emelian1977, an African American PhD student named Brenton Stewart,
conducted a survey of Black American Wikipedians in 2008. I can only find a
short
If the Foundation wanted to enquire, or do something about the relative
dearth of African American editors, a good person to contact would
probably
be Henry Louis Gates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates
He's a Harvard professor, famous for having been arrested on the front
On 22 November 2010 05:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 November 2010 11:10, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Glad to read this question here, have often wondered about this myself.
User:Emelian1977, an African American PhD student named Brenton Stewart,
conducted a
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:13 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a
2010/11/18 Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org:
So for 200 years it's OK to classify anyone with a drop of African blood
as black (and subject them to all forms of racism and discrimination),
but once a 1/2 African is elected president, he can't be called black
all the sudden?
References:
Although the most of participants in this discussion understood me
well, I want to be clear: I am talking about the specific 30M+ big
ethnic group living in US, which is named today as African Americans
and which ancestors came there as slaves. I am not talking about the
the second generation
There seems to be nothing on Wikia, Black wiki is about Criterion's
video game Black. Black Books wiki is about BAEFTA award-wining sitcom,
Black Books. Nothing about African-American.
You're on to a real problem, which by the way, as should be obvious,
Americans don't know how to deal with or
Speaking about numbers [1], there are ~100M of non Latin American
females and almost 38M of African Americans. According to the fact
that we have a number of prominent American female Wikimedians, I
would expect that we have a couple of prominent African American
Wikimedians.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 14:47, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
Although the most of participants in this discussion understood me
well, I want to be clear: I am talking about the specific 30M+ big
ethnic group living in US, which is named today as African Americans
and which ancestors
On 18 November 2010 05:47, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
Sue mentioned tech-centricity of Wikimedia community. I would say that
it is a good enough explanation for less women and less African
Americans in Wikimedian community. But, disproportion in the case of
African Americans is much
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 17:31, Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_American_Wikipedians
146 who use template {{User afr-amer}} on user pages. i don't know who is
active in wp
After looking into the number of American, Polish and Serbian
Wikipedians, I
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 15:47, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
If there were any demand for it, which there is not, a nationalist
African-American wikipedia would be acceptable, however it could not be
based on language differences. However, I doubt that would be acceptable
to
On 18 November 2010 13:44, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 17:31, Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_American_Wikipedians
146 who use template {{User afr-amer}} on user pages. i don't know who is
active in wp
After
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
I suppose that it could help up to some extent. However, we have at
least one -- already identified or not -- big systemic problem. And it
looks to me that it is not connected exclusively to African Americans.
I think
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Brian J Mingus
brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
I haven't seen the numbers lately but in the past it was true that the
majority of Wikipedia's traffic came from Google. If that is still true it
seems likely that Google's demographics mirror what we are seeing
In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:14:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mill...@gmail.com writes:
As it is pointed to me privately, I have one corrections and one
clarifications:
* First, my impression wasn't that Obama was raised inside of the
African American culture (first meaning). However, it
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 20:21, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:14:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mill...@gmail.com writes:
As it is pointed to me privately, I have one corrections and one
clarifications:
* First, my impression wasn't that Obama was raised inside of the
On 11/18/2010 11:21 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
He was not raised in an African American culture at all.
Regardless of whether or not Obama was raised in whatever you consider
to be 'African American culture', he has no doubt experienced life in a
very different way from someone who has
Actually, none of these statistics are relevant, because the overwhelming
majority of Wikipedians do not use userboxes to describe their nationality,
age, sex, or race.
Sure, and user page with userboxes =/= (active) wikipedian.
przykuta
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And my Knols are also not read in Africa
evidence
http://statcounter.com/project/standard/visitor_map.php?project_id=4543053
Although there is apparently one person in Pakistan who is interested.
The point of this message is that the reach in Africa doesn't seem limited
to a Wikipedia issue.
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite normal for a long time.
I tried to make a parallel between Roma people and
(To my knowledge) no one has an answer to this question that is backed by
rigorous research. This is one vital demographic question to ask, but just
looking at the sparse (self-selected) Category at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_American_Wikipedians is not
really evidence that
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite
Well why only African American Wikimedians, I think the issue might be the
same with other Racial Minorities in the US. How about Hispanic American or
Asian American Wikimedians. Apart from social issues inherent to minorities,
I think there might be something worth looking into, I doubt there
In a message dated 11/17/2010 1:23:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
Also, point of quibbling as an American: not looking to argue about it,
but
Obama is generally thought of as African American, as it says in the
second
sentence of his en.wiki article. It
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite normal for a long time.
I tried to make a parallel between Roma people and
The short answer: Wikipedia editors are volunteers and African-Americans
rarely volunteer.
The medium answer: African-American editors often edit only articles
which relate to African-American and do that in a point of view way.
The long answer: large blocks of African-American are
Hello,
In fact, I cannot remember that I have ever met in Germany or the
Netherlands a Turkish or Moroccan Wikimedian. Maybe there was one, but
he spoke good German and presented himself as User:Encylco-dude81 so
that I did not notice the migration background. :-)
According to the statistics
2010/11/17 wjhon...@aol.com:
In a message dated 11/17/2010 1:23:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
Also, point of quibbling as an American: not looking to argue about it,
but
Obama is generally thought of as African American, as it says in the
second
sentence
2010/11/18 Strainu strain...@gmail.com:
2010/11/17 wjhon...@aol.com:
In a message dated 11/17/2010 1:23:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
Also, point of quibbling as an American: not looking to argue about it,
but
Obama is generally thought of as African
The short answer: Wikipedia editors are volunteers and
African-Americans
rarely volunteer.
The medium answer: African-American editors often edit only articles
which relate to African-American and do that in a point of view way.
The long answer: large blocks of African-American are
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/17 wjhon...@aol.com:
Obama is exactly half-black and half-white.
Funny how he is African American but of course he is equally Caucasian
American
Which shows only hot dangerous political correctness can get. I
Hello,
In fact, I cannot remember that I have ever met in Germany or the
Netherlands a Turkish or Moroccan Wikimedian. Maybe there was one, but
he spoke good German and presented himself as User:Encylco-dude81 so
that I did not notice the migration background. :-)
According to the
On 17 November 2010 13:35, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:43 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me quite
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 17 November 2010 13:35, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African
Fred Bauder wrote:
[a bunch of inflammatory comments]
... and an entire mailing list facepalms. Good grief, Fred.
MZMcBride
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We tested Kartika earlier this week, and it did very very well. So we're
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we have are not ... well, people who look like me. So I'm very happy about
that.
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Philippe Beaudette
Head of
George Herbert wrote:
Obligatory current event tie-in -
Could we get a more multi-ethnic I am a Wikipedian campaign going
for the fundraising drive?
As attractive looking as Jimmy is, the community isn't a million
clones of him. Seeing more of the variety would certainly help
attract
Ah, bueno. I was unaware of the Kartika version; excellent that the
Foundation's already figured it out and was working on it.
Thanks, Philippe and MzMcBride. Good job to whoever thought it up
earlier and did the test run.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Philippe Beaudette
2010/11/17 Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com:
According to the statistics only 0.2% of the page views in Germany go
to Wikipedia in Turkish, by the way.Turks in Germany belong largely to
social classes that tend not to read much in an encyclopedia, and when
they need one for school, they
ve to get more contributors.
The short answer:
snip
this seems like a whole lot of unfounded (and fairly offensive)
generalizations? If you're really making a class-based argument, then
yes, I think the privileges of having free time, a decent education
and good internet access are all
So for 200 years it's OK to classify anyone with a drop of African blood
as black (and subject them to all forms of racism and discrimination),
but once a 1/2 African is elected president, he can't be called black
all the sudden?
References:
[1]
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed to
me
Oh, and as an afterthought, compare our articles on hip-hop[1] on the
English Wikipedia to our coverage of country music[2].
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanci_Griffith
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan
On 17 November 2010 15:39, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, bueno. I was unaware of the Kartika version; excellent that the
Foundation's already figured it out and was working on it.
Thanks, Philippe and MzMcBride. Good job to whoever thought it up
earlier and did the test
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any
African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living
in
a European country without African population, so everything seemed
to
I would not wish that world upon anyone, Fred. African Americans are
underrepresented for the same reason that Native Americans and about 300
ethnic groups are: lack of internet access and, with access emerging,
learning how to engage in the internet. It's not because any specific group
does not
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