Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
stevertigo wrote: > Nikola Smolenski wrote: > >> I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website >> of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org >> (disambiguation)." >> > I actually coined the word "hatnote" - probably in violation of our > 'no n

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-23 Thread stevertigo
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website > of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org > (disambiguation)." I actually coined the word "hatnote" - probably in violation of our 'no neolog

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Cary Bass
Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ? > > What for? > (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :) > > I meant for my post to be humours, but I failed to include my " :-) "! -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: ht

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
> How about a new mailing list. Wikimedia-uk-uk-l ? What for? (: To arrange mailing between two chapters? :) On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Cary Bass wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> Hi Andrew, >> >>> Could we take this offline and start a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Cary Bass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > Hi Andrew, > >> Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion >> rather than doing this via an open mailing list. > > Shure, we *have to* :) do so No sense to bother everybody by > details. > > Pavlo Shevelo > How a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United > Kingdom. > > > - "Pavlo Shevelo" wrote: >> From: "Pavlo Shevelo" >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" >> Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ire

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
RL, United Kingdom. - "Pavlo Shevelo" wrote: > From: "Pavlo Shevelo" > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
- "Nikola Smolenski" wrote: > > I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: "This is the website > of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org > (disambiguation)." I've added a hatnote in the meantime redirecting users to UK-WP and WM-UA. -- Andrew Turve

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo : > There should not be any real problem to link wikimedia.org.uk directly > to Wikimedia UK chapter wiki (wherever it's hosted). It depends on how the WMF has everything set up. They have a complicated setup for hosting multiple wikis, it may well be hard-coded that they a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
>> I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. > > I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to > direct our domain directly at their servers... Worth looking into. Please look into as move to own servers will not be in nearest weeks. As to the best of my understandi

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
List" > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in > Wikimedia jargon > > Hello Teofilo, > > I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confu

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/22 Pavlo Shevelo : >> ... At some point we will probably want to set >> up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated. > > I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. I'm not sure how the WMF servers are set up, it might be possible to direct our domain directly at t

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
> ... At some point we will probably want to set > up our own server(s) and then the confusion will be eliminated. I don't get it why elimination depends on hosting. Anyhow is it possible to have some explicit estimation about when "at some point" could happen? > It > might make sense to put a n

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/22 Marco Chiesa : > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofilo wrote: >> Hello everybody; >> >> This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : >> >> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? >> > > I've noticed that http://www

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you are going to solve this, then it is the cheapest not to wait. Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/22 Milos Rancic > Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem > with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for > Serbia is rs. It is interesting

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
> I'm sure there are several other cases as well. I'm quite sure that was the main reason to pick this issue up to this mailing list. It seems that it's high time to create some page on Meta to place whole list there and to collect there precedents how such issue were solved. On Wed, Jul 22, 20

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Williamson
Yes same issue for Sinhala (of Sri Lanka) and the country code for Slovenia - SI or Burmese and Malaysia - MY or Virgin Islands and Vietnamese - VI. I'm sure there are several other cases as well. Mark On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language p

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Milos Rancic
Wikimedia Serbia and Serbian language projects have similar problem with Suriname: The code for Serbian language is sr, while the code for Serbia is rs. It is interesting that .sr code was one of the preferred codes for some Serbian sites for a long time: it is free and for a long time Serbia used

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Williamson
Cruccone, I can confirm what you've said about Brazilian Portuguese, although I don't know that I'd characterise it as "a lot". Back in older times before there was much Breton content there, the domain was "squatted" by people who would have liked to have a separate WP for Brazilian Portuguese (i

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hi Jon, Thanks a lot for promt and informative (so valuable) input. Regarding > Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 language code standard and > The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166 standard for country codes, all WPs and all chapters have to do that very strictly and same way, aren't they (th

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Teofilo wrote: > Hello everybody; > > This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? > I've noticed that http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ redirects to http

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was > planning to do that myself a bit later). > > I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as > well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings > starting from > http://uk.

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Wikipedias follow the ISO 639 language code standard, where "uk" is the code for the Ukrainian language. The chapter sites, however, use the ISO 3166standard for country codes, and "ua" is the code for the country of Ukrai

Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Teofilo, I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was planning to do that myself a bit later). I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings starting from http://uk.wikipedia.org vs. h

[Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Teofilo
Hello everybody; This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: htt