Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Ray Saintonge, 10/04/2009 23:51: > Nemo_bis wrote: >> Jaska Zedlik, 09/04/2009 19:49: >> >>> So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there >>> global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? >>> >> Yes: e.g. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensin

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Nemo_bis wrote: > Jaska Zedlik, 09/04/2009 19:49: > >> So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there >> global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? >> > Yes: e.g. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy > (surprisingly not yet mentione

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Fred Bauder wrote: > However, I have faith that any > Wikipedia will, through experience, learn that such a policy is required > and adapt it. I think that is healthy, to develop policies as you learn > from experience. They mean more. This is important, but in conflict with having pre-determined

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Milos Rancic wrote: > Note that I am not talking about some edit war, but about a dominant > opinion of not so small number of communities. And those are just > dominant and generic excuses. A lot of others are well rationalized > excuses used by many communities and defined (or not) inside of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Fred Bauder wrote: > I think the assumption is that any Wikipedia will adopt the general > policies found on the English Wikipedia, but tailor them for local > conditions. A project which wishes to significantly deviate from the > general principles of everyone can edit, neutral point of view, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Hello Jaska, I think in principle we have the five pillars which should be hold by all wikipedia language versions. The foundation restrains from putting up too much global policies, but there are foundation policies that also have implication to the projects. For example the privacy policy (

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Hard to know, without knowing Spanish, and doing some serious > investigation whether this is an expose of a serious problem on the > Spanish Wikipedia or just green ink > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ink > > Thing is, there are always

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> "Informe sobre la censura existente en la Wikipedia hispana "Report on censorship which exists in the Spanish Wikipedia" > "El precio de la libertad es la eterna vigilancia" "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" > ¿Quién vigila a los vigilantes? (Quis custodiet ipsus custodes)" "Who wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 21:27, Milos Rancic wrote: >> > >> > The question was about a list which should exist somewhere (at Meta). >> > >> >> Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number >> of rules written on this

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 21:27, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > > The question was about a list which should exist somewhere (at Meta). > > > > Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number > of rules written on this mailing l

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

The old Belarusan WP is still around; the overwhelming reason for the closure of ru-sib was language issues. 2009/4/9 David Gerard : > 2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: >>> 2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wr

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Jaska Zedlik, 09/04/2009 19:49: > So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there > global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? Yes: e.g. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy (surprisingly not yet mentioned). But some wikis have non-free con

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

xpect each prject to use them. Flexibility is a virtue. From: Fred Bauder To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:00:32 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias I think the assumption is that any Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> > Is censorship looked down on by most wikis? > > I presume most wikis will refuse to take down contact due to laws in > that language's main base (eg Chinese Wikipedia)? Excellent question. I wonder about the Hebrew and the Arabic Wikipedias. Would, or could, either resist serious pressure by

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On 2009-04-09 18:49:10 +0100, Jaska Zedlik said: > Hi! > > It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow > some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The > question is what are these policies? > > Each small Wikipedia doesn’t have all variety of pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> 2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: >> So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? >> >>> No. >> >> NPO

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number > of rules written on this mailing list. Otherwise we (may) have a > situation when, for instance, a user puts some inflammatory or > divisive content on their user page and

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> Jaska Zedlik writes: >> Hi! >> >> It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow >> some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The >> question is what are these policies? >> > I believe all projects should follow >

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 21:27, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> The question was about a list which should exist somewhere (at Meta). >> > > Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number > of rules written on this mailing list. Otherwise we (may) have a > situation when, for inst

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> 2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > From: Jaska Zedlik > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 2:25 PM > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 21:27, Milos > Rancic &

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 21:27, Milos Rancic wrote: > > The question was about a list which should exist somewhere (at Meta). > Thank you, but not obligatory a list. I meant any form, even a number of rules written on this mailing list. Otherwise we (may) have a situation when, for instance, a user

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Hello Jaska, Not as "compulsory", but as helping I once started http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Basic_Wikipedia_and_help_pages My idea was and is that it is difficult for small Wikipedias to translate or adapt all of the pages of en.WP, that there should be a short list of short pages nec

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > >>> So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there >>> global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? > >> No. > > NPOV. Wikipedias wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Jaska Zedlik writes: > Hi! > > It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow > some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The > question is what are these policies? > I believe all projects should follow

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

2009/4/9 Milos Rancic : > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: >> So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there >> global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow? > No. NPOV. Wikipedias which refuse it have been shut down. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

I think the assumption is that any Wikipedia will adopt the general policies found on the English Wikipedia, but tailor them for local conditions. A project which wishes to significantly deviate from the general principles of everyone can edit, neutral point of view, and using reliable sources shou

Re: [Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik wrote: > It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow > some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The > question is what are these policies? Welcome to the club :) > So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list

[Foundation-l] Compulsory policies for all Wikipedias

Hi! It is totally clear that all the Wikipedias must respect and follow some particular policies which are global for all the Wikipedias. The question is what are these policies? Each small Wikipedia doesn’t have all variety of policies and guidelines which major Wikipedias have, and—it’s obvious