Wikimedians--
As many of you know, last month we began work on exploring the
visibility of the donate button on all Wikimedia projects. After a long
comment period, we received many comments and many new ideas. Some of
these ideas we have incorporated into a new set of test buttons. Thank
you
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Rand Montoya wrote:
> Wikimedians--
>
> As many of you know, last month we began work on exploring the
> visibility of the donate button on all Wikimedia projects. After a long
> comment period, we received many comments and many new ideas. Some of
> these ideas we
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Robert Rohde wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Rand Montoya
> wrote:
> > Wikimedians--
> >
> > As many of you know, last month we began work on exploring the
> > visibility of the donate button on all Wikimedia projects. After a long
> > comment period, we
2009/7/21 Robert Rohde :
> Testing should be done in parallel, not in sequence. History has
> demonstrated that donors have a tendency to respond disproportionately
> to "the new thing". Which means that whatever button you test first
> will have an advantage over whichever one you test last. P
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/7/21 Robert Rohde :
>
> > Testing should be done in parallel, not in sequence. History has
> > demonstrated that donors have a tendency to respond disproportionately
> > to "the new thing". Which means that whatever button you test firs
2009/7/20 Liam Wyatt :
> Rotating them would seem like a more viable solution than randomised - We
> don't want the situation where every new page in WP someone reads there is a
> new/different coloured donation button where last week there was none at all
> - to go from nothing to that would be al
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> Indeed, that's the reasoning behind the proposed approach. We don't
> want it to typically be changing constantly for an individual user.
> Yes, a sequential run does introduce various problematic biases.
>
> An IP-address based hack could work
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> > Indeed, that's the reasoning behind the proposed approach. We don't
> > want it to typically be changing constantly for an individual user.
> > Yes, a sequential run does introduce v
What about changing it every hour? Then you have sufficient randomness over
time, and no flashy buttons.
-- eia
2009/7/21 Erik Moeller
> 2009/7/20 Liam Wyatt :
> > Rotating them would seem like a more viable solution than randomised - We
> > don't want the situation where every new page in WP s
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:15 AM, effe iets
anders wrote:
> What about changing it every hour? Then you have sufficient randomness over
> time, and no flashy buttons.
You still have the problem that peoples response to future buttons
will depend on the past buttons they've seen.
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:15 AM, effe iets
> anders wrote:
>> What about changing it every hour? Then you have sufficient randomness over
>> time, and no flashy buttons.
>
> You still have the problem that peoples response to future buttons
Donate Now Every donation helps us to keep free for everyone.
Donate Now Keep Wikipedia free for everyone.
Is no one else concerned by the use of the word "free" in the message options
being tested. I wouldn't want these ambigous messages like these on the site
no matter if they beat out the n
on 7/21/09 10:33 AM, Birgitte SB at birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Donate Now Every donation helps us to keep free for everyone.
> Donate Now Keep Wikipedia free for everyone.
>
> Is no one else concerned by the use of the word "free" in the message options
> being tested. I wouldn't want the
I agree with this, and said so at the original discussion--where I
think the consensus was not to use that phrase.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Marc
Riddell wrote:
> on 7/21/09 10:33 AM, Birgitte SB at birgitte...@yahoo
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