Jimmy Xu wrote:
> Yeah. We ARE discussing (4) at zhwiki, but it seems to be resolved per
> preceding reply. These laws are confusing, huh~ Thanks a lot.
>
One point that's important to keep in mind is that copyright does not
protect the information; it protects the way the information is
prese
2009/6/25 Jimmy Xu :
> And here is the issue that in Berne Convention Article 2 (8), it says
> "The protection of this Convention shall not apply to news of the day
> or to miscellaneous facts having the character of mere items of press
> information." So whether these kind of stuffs can be used as
And here is the issue that in Berne Convention Article 2 (8), it says
"The protection of this Convention shall not apply to news of the day
or to miscellaneous facts having the character of mere items of press
information." So whether these kind of stuffs can be used as if they
were in public domai
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> So that is, due to P.R. of China Copyright Law, text that published in
> newspapers, periodicals, radio and TV stations and other media
> reported the news of the simple fact are not copyrighted. But I cannot
> find these exception in US Copyright
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 15:01, Jimmy Xu wrote:
>> So that is, due to P.R. of China Copyright Law, text that published in
>> newspapers, periodicals, radio and TV stations and other media
>> reported the news of the simple fact are not copyright
Yeah, of course. But if the material is in PD in P.R. China, it is in
PD all over the world. So I think that would not be a big deal.
jimmy_xu_...@zhwiki
06/25/2009
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Cary Bass wrote:
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Andre Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> These days at the Village Pump of zhwiki, many wikipedians are
>> arguing about whether Wikimedia project should apply to the US
>> Copyright Law that is where the
Yeah. We ARE discussing (4) at zhwiki, but it seems to be resolved per
preceding reply. These laws are confusing, huh~ Thanks a lot.
jimmy_xu_...@zhwiki
06/25/2009
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Andrew Gray wrote:
>
> 2009/6/25 Samuel Klein :
> > What are examples of something which is fair u
2009/6/25 Samuel Klein :
> What are examples of something which is fair use under chinese law but
> not under US law?
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Copyright_Law_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China_(2001)#Section_4_Limitations_on_Rights
I believe (10) is not very effectively protected in the US,
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 15:01, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> So that is, due to P.R. of China Copyright Law, text that published in
> newspapers, periodicals, radio and TV stations and other media
> reported the news of the simple fact are not copyrighted. But I cannot
> find these exception in US Copyright La
If PRC law says that factual statements published in PRC media cannot
be copyrighted, then those statements may be available under a sort of
PRC-PD license for anyone to use, including zh.wp -- it would not be a
matter of fair use.
Under PRC law, are statements of simple fact *published outside o
So that is, due to P.R. of China Copyright Law, text that published in
newspapers, periodicals, radio and TV stations and other media
reported the news of the simple fact are not copyrighted. But I cannot
find these exception in US Copyright Law. Maybe it's only because my
English is not so good an
What are examples of something which is fair use under chinese law but
not under US law?
In general you should not upload anything that violates US law.
Additional standards are set by each community - in terms of free
license v. fair use, whether an image is being used effectively on the
projec
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:28 AM, teun spaans wrote:
>> IANAL, but I suppose three things must be considered:
>> - US law, where the servers are based
>> - the country where a work originates
>> - the country to which the wikipedian belongs.
>
> T
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:28 AM, teun spaans wrote:
> IANAL, but I suppose three things must be considered:
> - US law, where the servers are based
> - the country where a work originates
> - the country to which the wikipedian belongs.
Thanks, but there is still a problem: If these laws are unde
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> Hello all,
> These days at the Village Pump of zhwiki, many wikipedians are
> arguing about whether Wikimedia project should apply to the US
> Copyright Law that is where the servers were placed, or the local
> ones, for us, that is the P.R. of Ch
IANAL, but I suppose three things must be considered:
- US law, where the servers are based
- the country where a work originates
- the country to which the wikipedian belongs.
The US Laws will have to be followed as far as copyright is concerned, as
the servers are in the US.
The second thing is
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Jimmy Xu wrote:
> Hello all,
> These days at the Village Pump of zhwiki, many wikipedians are
> arguing about whether Wikimedia project should apply to the US
> Copyright Law that is where the servers were placed, or the local
> ones, for us, that is the P.R. of
Hello all,
These days at the Village Pump of zhwiki, many wikipedians are
arguing about whether Wikimedia project should apply to the US
Copyright Law that is where the servers were placed, or the local
ones, for us, that is the P.R. of China Copyright Law. These thread
came from a disagreement o
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