Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-21 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/20/11 10:11 PM, とある白い猫 wrote: Certain projects are bound to loose active contributors. Projects like Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikispecies or even Wiktionary do not have the same growth curve as a general purpose encyclopedia. These tools have serious competition as well. Statistically

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Usage statistics alone, I would agree with you. But stats can tell so much more than just what you get from usage stats. For instance: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm (be sure to scroll all the way to the right). ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/13/11 6:11 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: I am not a Wictionary contributor but I was never able to understand why we have Wictionaries in different language, though a big part of those seem to be translations on other languages, and they overlap. Would it not be advantageous to have

[Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread David Richfield
In the discussion of the Wikinews fork (may they thrive), I picked up some comments predicting the death of Wiktionary and Wikiquote, referring to the low numbers of regular contributors. I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those projects, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/9/13 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those projects, and every time I go there, they're better. Absolutely true. In the last year or so i've been using English, Dutch, French, Spanish,

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread David Richfield
I am not a Wictionary contributor but I was never able to understand why we have Wictionaries in different language, though a big part of those seem to be translations on other languages, and they overlap. Would it not be advantageous to have just one Wictionary (as we have just one Commons)?

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/9/13 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: I am not a Wictionary contributor but I was never able to understand why we have Wictionaries in different language, though a big part of those seem to be translations on other languages, and they overlap. Would it not be advantageous to have

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread David Richfield
It's possible. The interface part is even quite easy. The hard part is defining a data model to contain all the words in all languages, with definitions in all languages, with morphology tables, etc. Something like this is slowly being done at www.omegawiki.org and there are other projects,

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread David Gerard
2011/9/13 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: It's possible. The interface part is even quite easy. The hard part is defining a data model to contain all the words in all languages, with definitions in all languages, with morphology tables, etc. Something like this is slowly being done

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread emijrp
I prefer WMF caring about the currently hosted sister projects, instead of adding more. 2011/9/13 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com 2011/9/13 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: It's possible. The interface part is even quite easy. The hard part is defining a data model to contain all

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Fred Bauder
In the discussion of the Wikinews fork (may they thrive), I picked up some comments predicting the death of Wiktionary and Wikiquote, referring to the low numbers of regular contributors. I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread M. Williamson
Wiktionary is useful; perhaps you're referring to my comments, which were not about Wiktionary at all. Wikiquote definitely does not belong as a sister project. Maybe it is a shining beacon in the cesspool of internet quote sites; well, there are lots of things the rest of the Internet does

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Fred Bauder
Wiktionary is useful; perhaps you're referring to my comments, which were not about Wiktionary at all. Wikiquote definitely does not belong as a sister project. Maybe it is a shining beacon in the cesspool of internet quote sites; well, there are lots of things the rest of the Internet does