Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-23 Thread Platonides
phoebe ayers wrote: > It's not news but AFAIK an actual image of the flag used is missing. > So if that turns up, that would be cool :) But I think it was already > gone by Feb. 2001. > > -- phoebe Isn't it the first piece of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terribly_wrong.png ?

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-21 Thread The Cunctator
Larry didn't have an exaggerated role, he really did run the project in the early days. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 15/12/10 11:17, Brian J Mingus wrote: > > Browsing through the earliest revisions in the revision index ( > > http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/r

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Good news from Wiki-research-l in case you're not subscribed to it... Nemo Messaggio Originale Oggetto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] [WikiEN-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered Data: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:53:14 -0500 Da: Joseph Reagle I have the first 10K edits up reconstructed in thei

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/14/2010 5:14:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, tstarl...@wikimedia.org writes: > I've long suspected that the early FAQs and history pages gave Larry > Sanger an exaggerated role because he wrote them himself. It will be > interesting to see if any such conclusion can be drawn f

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread WJhonson
Is the current CC license retroactive to all of the old versions from the beginning to now? W ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ), 15/12/2010 01:03: > And here is the first http://wikipedia.com archive link available at web > archive. > > http://web.archive.org/web/20010727112808/http://www.wikipedia.org/ No, the first is http://web.archive.org/web/20010331173908/http://www.wikipedia.com/ Tim Starl

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 December 2010 17:39, ResearchBiz wrote: > True to FT2's vision, this story has already been picked up by the major > media! > http://www.examiner.com/[spam url snipped] examiner.com is basically a paid blogging host with the only relation to "media" being a news-site-like skin. http://en

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, ResearchBiz wrote: > True to FT2's vision, this story has already been picked up by the major > media! > > http://www.examiner.com/wiki-edits-in-national/original-copy-of-wikipedia-discovered > > Original copy of Wikipedia discovered > December 14, 2010 > - by Gre

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread ResearchBiz
True to FT2's vision, this story has already been picked up by the major media! http://www.examiner.com/wiki-edits-in-national/original-copy-of-wikipedia-discovered Original copy of Wikipedia discovered December 14, 2010 - by Gregory Kohs, for Examiner.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Brian J Mingus, 15/12/2010 01:36: >> Here is an interesting bit of history - the Wikipedia logo was first an >> American flag. Then Scott Moonen suggested we make it a globe: > > No news, this is already on Meta: > http://meta.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brian J Mingus, 15/12/2010 01:36: > Here is an interesting bit of history - the Wikipedia logo was first an > American flag. Then Scott Moonen suggested we make it a globe: No news, this is already on Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logo_history http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OldWikiPediaLogo

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
On 15/12/10 11:17, Brian J Mingus wrote: > Browsing through the earliest revisions in the revision index ( > http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/revisions.html) is rather > interesting and full of fodder for founder debates. Consider these very > early revisions: > > "[http://www.nupedia.com N

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread emijrp
Is there any database backup of Nupedia? Or the articles were posted as HTML pages? 2010/12/15 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) > And here is the first http://wikipedia.com archive link available at web > archive. > > http://web.archive.org/web/20010727112808/http://www.wikipedia.org/ > > > 2010/12/15 Vi

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Brian J Mingus
wikipedia history pages on English, too. >>> >>> :) >>> Phoebe >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Moka Pantages >>> wrote: >>> > This is so exciting! To Steven's point: we've also started a page >>> > where folks

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Brian J Mingus
>> :) >> Phoebe >> >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Moka Pantages >> wrote: >> > This is so exciting! To Steven's point: we've also started a page >> > where folks can add bits of interesting information as they excavate >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
And here is the first http://wikipedia.com archive link available at web archive. http://web.archive.org/web/20010727112808/http://www.wikipedia.org/ 2010/12/15 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) > I hope some of you may have seen/discussed these pages (as well as the > connected pages): > > http://web.

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
I hope some of you may have seen/discussed these pages (as well as the connected pages): http://web.archive.org/web/20010418152404/www.nupedia.com/ upto http://web.archive.org/web/20030730075209/http://www.nupedia.org/ Of course the domain name then, was nupedia.org. -vp On Wed, Dec 15, 20

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
On 15/12/10 07:36, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote: >> I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I >> opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete >> backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 200

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Henning Schlottmann
On 14.12.2010 23:47, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Henning Schlottmann >> Not true. The first other languages were introduced on March 15 and >> could be part of this archive if the different Wikipedias were in one >> database under UseMod. > > My earliest recorded entry

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > Hi Magnus, > > On 14.12.2010 22:35, Magnus Manske wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann >> wrote: >>> On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote: I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge projec

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Henning Schlottmann
Hi Magnus, On 14.12.2010 22:35, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann > wrote: >> On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote: >>> I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I >>> opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three compl

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Brian J Mingus
x27;s point: we've also started a page > > where folks can add bits of interesting information as they excavate > > the files [1]. Can't wait to dig in! > > > > Congrats, Tim! > > > > [1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_the_Beginning > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote: >> I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I >> opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete >> backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Henning Schlottmann
On 14.12.2010 16:54, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! That's wonderful news. Is this for enWP only or

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
e > the files [1]. Can't wait to dig in! > > Congrats, Tim! > > [1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_the_Beginning > > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:20:10 -0800 > From: Steven Walling > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered > To:

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread James Alexander
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > > > Btw how does one *open* this tarball thing (on Windows) ? > > I'm a fan of http://www.7-zip.org/ -- James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubs

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
to dig in! > > > > Congrats, Tim! > > > > [1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_the_Beginning > > > > > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:20:10 -0800 > > From: Steven Walling > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovere

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
Would prefer on its own wiki as this is comprehensive up to a given date. Maybe January2001.wikipedia.org -- immediate impact. (DNS software cannot handle 2001.wikipedia.org) FT2 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling > wrote: > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
Winrar's your best bet. Other archivers may be equally good. FT2 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:53 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 12/14/2010 8:21:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > steven.wall...@gmail.com writes: > > > > This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better. > > > > If anyone finds an

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread phoebe ayers
page > where folks can add bits of interesting information as they excavate > the files [1].   Can't wait to dig in! > > Congrats, Tim! > > [1] http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_the_Beginning > > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:20:10 -0800 > From: Steven Wall

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/14/2010 8:21:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, steven.wall...@gmail.com writes: > This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better. > > If anyone finds anything noteworthy, please add it to the timeline of > Wikipedia that we're building at the 10th anniversary wiki,[1] as

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Moka Pantages
0:10 -0800 From: Steven Walling Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better. If anyone finds anything noteworthy, p

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! > > This is exciting, because there

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Jay Walsh
This is definitely a tremendous asset leading up to our big bday in January. I hope we can extract and post some of the real gems. Thanks for the resourcefulness and the sharing, Tim. On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:04 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! > > This is exciting, because there

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread emijrp
Hi; Thanks Tim. Congratulations. Is Wikipedia:UuU[1] now out-of-date? Regards, emijrp [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UuU 2010/12/14 Tim Starling > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complet

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread FT2
Wow, Tim. Just wow! Is it just me who sees NYT carrying a headline, "On eve of 10th anniversary, WIkipedia developers turn up earliest records" ? FT2 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file calle

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Steven Walling
This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better. If anyone finds anything noteworthy, please add it to the timeline of Wikipedia that we're building at the 10th anniversary wiki,[1] as well as the other tools for cataloging interesting tidbits from our history.[2] 1. http://ten.wikipedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Michael Snow
On 12/14/2010 7:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! I guess producing database dumps was easier in

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Magnus Manske
Great news indeed! Now I can finally figure out when my first edit was :-) Magnus On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread teun spaans
Tim, wonderful news! Thank you for making them publicly available! Of course I immediately downloaded them, and I must have a look at them later this week. Though they are from before I became active (2003) I am very curious if the articles in these files still exist, and how much they changed.

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Chad
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I > opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete > backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! > > This is exciting, because ther

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Peter Coombe
That's fantastic news, and just in time for the 10th anniversary too, when I'm sure the early days of Wikipedia will be in the limelight. Great find Tim! Would it be at all possible to import these into the current system? I know someone was importing edits from the Nostalgia wiki. It would be won

[Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-14 Thread Tim Starling
I was looking through some old files in our SourceForge project. I opened a file called wiki.tar.gz, and inside were three complete backups of the text of Wikipedia, from February, March and August 2001! This is exciting, because there is lots of article history in here which was assumed to be los