Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread M. Williamson
2011/9/13 John Vandenberg > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Fae wrote: > > On 13 September 2011 18:23, M. Williamson wrote: > >> Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys > >> doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what > is > >> suppo

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Fae wrote: > On 13 September 2011 18:23, M. Williamson wrote: >> Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys >> doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is >> supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread Yann Forget
2011/9/13 M. Williamson : > Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys > doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is > supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but actually looks more like a > piece of stale bread? Wow. +1 I really hope

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread Fae
On 13 September 2011 18:23, M. Williamson wrote: > Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys > doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is > supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but actually looks more like a > piece of stale bread?

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread M. Williamson
Are you kidding? Pictures of mummies, a cup with a depiction of two guys doing it that can only be noticed if you look really closely, and what is supposed to be a depiction of intercourse but actually looks more like a piece of stale bread? Wow. 2011/9/13 Fae > > Are there are pages on English

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread Fae
> Are there are pages on English Wikipedia that should be classified as PG? Good candidates that I have had a hand in improving are: # [[Gebelein predynastic mummies]] - surely gruesome close-ups of naked dead bodies are PG? # [[Warren Cup]] - explicit depiction of under-age homosexual anal sex in

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-13 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Stephen Bain wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> >> Are there any encyclopedia which have been >> classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? >> >> If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most rating agencies wo

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-08 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:24:27PM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: > Hi Kim, > > I think you might be more interested in looking at the same question > from another perspective. Oh, right, sorry. I knew it was a bad idea to post at 5:00 AM. ^^;; > If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most ratin

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-08 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > I remember once at the local college library, Adams State, in Alamosa, > that they had Girl on a Swing in the children's collection. At my secondary school library (er, I think that's 'high school' for the US equivalent) we were given a tour o

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 08/09/11 03:14, John Vandenberg wrote: > Are there are pages on English Wikipedia that should be classified as PG? PG rating is a point of view. It breaches "our" constitution to remains neutral :-) -- Ashar Voultoiz ___ foundation-l mailing lis

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Keegan Peterzell
If we didn't all know that Mike is probably following this thread, I think we would have reached Godwin's law a little while back. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubs

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Stephen Bain wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > > > Are there any encyclopedia which have been > > classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? > > > > If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most rating agenc

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Stephen Bain
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > Are there any encyclopedia which have been > classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? > > If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most rating agencies would > decide that the content is appropriate for all ages.

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Bauder
editorial self-control. Always appropriate. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > John Vandenberg wrote: >> I think you might be more interested in looking at the same question >> from another perspective. >> >> Are there any encyclopedia which have been >> classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread MZMcBride
John Vandenberg wrote: > I think you might be more interested in looking at the same question > from another perspective. > > Are there any encyclopedia which have been > classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? > > If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most rating age

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
Hi Kim, I think you might be more interested in looking at the same question from another perspective. Are there any encyclopedia which have been classified/banned/bowlderised by any country in the last 50 years? If Wikipedia is a quality encyclopedia, most rating agencies would decide that the

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:00:27PM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: > http://www.efa.org.au/category/censorship/mandatory-isp-filtering/ > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/15/australian_censorship_measures/ I know, right? That's why it's politically so damned inconvenient for the board to move fo

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:15:00PM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker wrote: > > Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television, video > > games, and other media. > > Sure there are a lot of possible problems, but I am wondering if we > ha

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Phil Nash wrote: >>John Vandenberg wrote: >>.. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board > > Rubbish, and the article you cite is very poorly-written anyway. I provided the link to Wikipedia so people unfamiliar with Australia have somewhere

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Phil Nash
Fred Bauder wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker wrote: >>> Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television, >>> video >>> games, and other media. >> >> Which rating systems would apply to our content? >> >> i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have jurisdictio

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Phil Nash
John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker wrote: >> Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television, >> video games, and other media. > > Which rating systems would apply to our content? > > i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have jurisdiction over

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker wrote: >> Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television, >> video >> games, and other media. > > Which rating systems would apply to our content? > > i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have jurisdiction over > Wikipedia? > > htt

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Risker wrote: > Many countries have different rating schemes for movies, television, video > games, and other media. Which rating systems would apply to our content? i.e. does the Australian regulatory body have jurisdiction over Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.o

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Phil Nash
John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Phil Nash > wrote: >> ... >> [[WP:ANI]] is hardly an example to our children, is it? > > ANI isn't a content page. As I understand it, all of Wikipedia is available to all readers. It follows that the same standard should prevail througho

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Risker
On 7 September 2011 21:14, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: > > On 07/09/2011 11:17 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: > >> [...] but I'm even less keen on parents telling their > >> children they can't use Wikipedia [...] > >> > > > > It's not the first tim

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: >>.. >> Reality is PG. > > ;-) > > By rating, I mean external standardised classification systems. > What individual parents do with those ratings is a different matter. > > Does English Wikipedia have content which an external regulato

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: >> On 07/09/2011 11:17 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: >>> [...] but I'm even less keen on parents telling their >>> children they can't use Wikipedia [...] >>> >> >> It's not the first time I see this meme expressed. >> >> Is there a reliable sou

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Phil Nash wrote: >... > [[WP:ANI]] is hardly an example to our children, is it? ANI isn't a content page. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: >.. > Reality is PG. ;-) By rating, I mean external standardised classification systems. What individual parents do with those ratings is a different matter. Does English Wikipedia have content which an external regulator would classify

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Phil Nash
John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marc A. Pelletier > wrote: >> On 07/09/2011 11:17 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: >>> [...] but I'm even less keen on parents telling their >>> children they can't use Wikipedia [...] >>> >> >> It's not the first time I see this meme expressed. >>

Re: [Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/09/2011 9:14 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > Are there are pages on English Wikipedia that should be classified as PG? Perhaps, the problem being that one parent's PG is another's inoffensive learning material. I can readily see people who wouldn't want their children anywhere near [[Big Ba

[Foundation-l] PG rating

2011-09-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 07/09/2011 11:17 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: >> [...] but I'm even less keen on parents telling their >> children they can't use Wikipedia [...] >> > > It's not the first time I see this meme expressed. > > Is there a reliable source somewher