2009/1/10 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
on 1/10/09 6:59 AM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I note that I have asked you before if you've actually attempted to
work directly with the community on-wiki, and you demurred:
on 1/10/09 6:59 AM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I note that I have asked you before if you've actually attempted to
work directly with the community on-wiki, and you demurred:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-January/097693.html
You claim to be defending the
Marc Riddell writes:
The Foundation - and those who represent it - seem to have forgotten
that
people are at the heart of what they are there to do. And, without the
heart, it cannot live.
on 1/8/09 4:22 PM, Mike Godwin at mgod...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is really an insupportable
Hello,
Having not read the original thread, I can only comment on this new
thread. All the rhetoric I see here is from you, with high-minded
phrases like people are at the heart (as if Wikimedia staff were
non-people), a total lack of concrete points or examples, citing
several experts in the
* was discussed extensively
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
Not only that, but what the relationship between the Foundation and the
community would be was extensively on this list well before the Foundation
become as monolithic as it is today.
On
A linguistic analysis by several experts in the
field concluded that you don't have a clue about effective group management.
on 1/8/09 8:41 PM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
WMF
doesn't manage its volunteer base, it keeps its hands off and lets the
community sort itself
2009/1/9 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
A linguistic analysis by several experts in the
field concluded that you don't have a clue about effective group management.
on 1/8/09 8:41 PM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
WMF
doesn't manage its volunteer base, it keeps
2009/1/8 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
This is pure unsubstantiated rhetoric. There are real-life, real-time
problems - serious problems - that directly involve the people occurring in
the English Wikipedia for example. Where is your help?
Marc, can you give examples of what kind of
on 1/8/09 9:20 PM, Erik Moeller at e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/1/8 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
This is pure unsubstantiated rhetoric. There are real-life, real-time
problems - serious problems - that directly involve the people occurring in
the English Wikipedia for example.
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 1/8/09 9:20 PM, Erik Moeller at e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/1/8 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
This is pure unsubstantiated rhetoric. There are real-life, real-time
problems - serious problems - that directly involve the people occurring in
the English
on 1/8/09 11:02 PM, Alex at mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote:
And how is the foundation supposed to resolve this? Counsel people into
changing their opinions? Ban people who appear to be suppressing
criticism? Forcibly change policies? Act as proxies for people afraid of
criticism? I'm
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 1/8/09 11:02 PM, Alex at mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote:
And how is the foundation supposed to resolve this? Counsel people into
changing their opinions? Ban people who appear to be suppressing
criticism? Forcibly change policies? Act as proxies for people afraid of
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