If there's along list, then it can get longer. :-)
And I'm not sure ar: is a parallel - ar: is generally MSA its relation
to arz: is more like Received English's relation to other dialects a
member of the same family, rather than the language family as a whole
which kur: is. The situation is
az.wikipedia hosts content for both dialects of Azerbaijani language. As
long as a wiki is willing to host multiple dialects under a macro-language
banner and said dialects are willing to be hosted under that banner there is
no problem for us to fix. However, if one of the two az.wiki dialects
deci
Azeri/Azerbaijani Wikipedia is a good example of a Wikipedia that is truly
available to users in both varieties, 10% of pages on the Wiki are in a
different variety and it is also featured prominently on the main page.
ku.wp users have been trying to make the case that they are the same, but
the co
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 18:35, M. Williamson wrote:
> If all Kurdish editors had been in favor of having a "Kurdish Wikipedia" as
> an "emblem of their unified ethnic identity", as you claim, then there would
> never have been a separate Sorani Wikipedia.
That's true. For example, we have just on
Nathan, what about the fact that all the "Kurdish editors" are speakers of
Kurmanji? White Cat solicited opinions from the Sorani and Zazaki Wikipedias
but nobody from there has commented yet. It should be noted that ku.wp users
have a history of reacting angrily to the creation of Wikipedias for K
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:49 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
> And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly willing
> to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a
> pedophile says "We should put a picture of a naked child on every page of
> Wikipedia!", we
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 00:38, Nathan wrote:
> I don't think White_Cat's nomination is purely without ulterior motive,
> unfortunately. As some editors from ku.wp have alluded to, the issue of the
> name and designation of the "Kurdish Wikipedia" has ethnic and nationalist
> ramifications on both
I am sorry but how is renaming ku.wikipedia to kmr.wikipedia a "Turkish
Nationalistic View"? Have you even read the proposal before assuming bad
faith? Do you understand how little the proposal intends to change?
- The interwiki link for Sorani wikipedia is "کوردی" which means "Kurdi"
or K
And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly willing
to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a
pedophile says "We should put a picture of a naked child on every page of
Wikipedia!", we should refute his idea on its merits, not based on the fact
that
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
>
> Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in
> supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to those
> of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to murder Kurdish women and
> children. Thi
Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in
supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to those
of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to murder Kurdish women and
children. This game of nationalism and accusations is nothing new on
Wikipedia
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:33 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
> Any proof of this? I don't seem to see anywhere that it says that
> White_Cat's nationality is Turkish. Also, that holds little relevance. I
> agree with him and I am certainly not Turkish.
>
>
You may not find it relevant, which is fine. Ot
Any proof of this? I don't seem to see anywhere that it says that
White_Cat's nationality is Turkish. Also, that holds little relevance. I
agree with him and I am certainly not Turkish.
2011/9/16 Nathan
> I don't think White_Cat's nomination is purely without ulterior motive,
> unfortunately. A
I don't think White_Cat's nomination is purely without ulterior motive,
unfortunately. As some editors from ku.wp have alluded to, the issue of the
name and designation of the "Kurdish Wikipedia" has ethnic and nationalist
ramifications on both sides of the debate. Several of the ku.wp editors are
On 16/09/11 14:37, とある白い猫 wrote:
> It is proposed that Kurdish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language)
> wikipedia (ku.wikipedia) be renamed to Kurmanji wikipedia (kmr.wikipedia)
Please note that we are not doing wiki renames yet for technical
reasons. Nothing really preventing it, but w
While opposition comments of the local community may be full of irrelevant
political and controversial references, the arguments in support of the
rename aren't anything of the sort. It may be difficult to follow the meta
page as there is so much irrelevant posts by the ku.wiki community and that
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:35, M. Williamson wrote:
> In this case, I do not think anything local changed by langcom, the
> foundation, or anybody else unless it creates legal problems. The only thing
> this request covers is the code itself, which is currently wrong since "ku"
> is a macrolanguag
I think there is a misunderstanding with regards to the scope of the
request. Both Kurmanji and Sorani Wikipedias actually currently are labelled
in interwiki links and bills itself sometimes as "Kurdish Wikipedia". These
are both local issues and this request is not asking them to stop that. The
o
2011/9/16 M. Williamson :
> It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of
> pending name changes.
The problem with the request is that it's not in the scope of Language
committee. Renaming "zh-min-nan" into "nan" is in the scope, as it
deals with simple code change. Renamin
It's not irrelevant because if approved, it could be added to list of
pending name changes.
As far as codes representing macrolanguages, ku: is clearly a different
situation than ar.wp. Arabic is a group of languages with a single unifying
"macro" standard, which speakers of all Arabic languages l
Hoi,
The argument for or against using ku.wikipedia.org are interesting but at
this time rather irrelevant.There is a long list of pending name changes
waiting to happen. Also we are quite happy to keep codes that are in fact
representing macro languages like ar or Arabic.
Thanks,
GerardM
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Hi all,
It is proposed that Kurdish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language)
wikipedia (ku.wikipedia) be renamed to Kurmanji wikipedia (kmr.wikipedia) as
currently ku.wikipedia predominantly hosts a single dialect which is
Kurmanji dialect of Kurdish. Local community oppose the proposal so
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