Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2012-01-03 Thread Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu
I know this is somewhat out of topic. Sorry about that. Technical discussions should go elsewhere. (11/12/28 6:39), Yao Ziyuan wrote: If Wikipedia can implement the things I talked about so far (topic-specific chat rooms, forums, topic-specific resource announcement and discovery) right on

[Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
Remember there was MSN Explorer (desktop software) that let you browse MSN and use MSN services such as Hotmail? Remember Google Earth (desktop software) that lets you browse the Earth and provides additional services based on the Earth? We can also make a Wikipedia Explorer (desktop software)

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 27 December 2011 21:01, Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com wrote: Remember there was MSN Explorer (desktop software) that let you browse MSN and use MSN services such as Hotmail? Remember Google Earth (desktop software) that lets you browse the Earth and provides additional services based on

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread John Du Hart
I personally would prefer to see such new features added directly to Wikipedia instead of focusing on another product. Remember, this is 2012, we don't need dedicated software for most things anymore. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com wrote: Remember there was MSN

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Gregory Varnum
I tend to agree that MW focus should be on the web applications - including mobile. However a free (and ad-free) third-party Adobe AIR app that integrates new web features with services offered by other sites in ways not otherwise allowed by WMF policies - might be interesting for folks that

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
Besides social features such as chat, discussions and resource announcement/retrieval, it could also have personal features such as bookmarks, ebook creation, etc., so that before the program's user base becomes large enough for its social features to be really useful, a user can already find the

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
The idea behind this program idea is that I have long felt Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia; it's the biggest ontology ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_(information_science) ) ever made on the Web. Just like GPS (Global Positioning System) gives every location in this world a unique

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Jürgen Fenn
Am 27. Dezember 2011 22:39 schrieb Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com: Besides social features such as chat, discussions and resource announcement/retrieval, it could also have personal features such as bookmarks, ebook creation, etc., so that before the program's user base becomes large enough

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
In my original message I mentioned a chat room and a forum for every Wikipedia article. For chat rooms, yes, an IRC server has to be created (or use an existing IRC network such as FreeNode). For forums, however, we don't need a centralized forum server. Wikipedia Explorer will help the user

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Jürgen Fenn
Am 27. Dezember 2011 23:24 schrieb Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com: In my original message I mentioned a chat room and a forum for every Wikipedia article. For chat rooms, yes, an IRC server has to be created (or use an existing IRC network such as FreeNode). For forums, however, we don't need

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
If Wikipedia can implement the things I talked about so far (topic-specific chat rooms, forums, topic-specific resource announcement and discovery) right on wikipedia.org, then certainly it's the most ideal solution. But as Thomas Dalton said, if Wikimedia Foundation continues to take a purist

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Jürgen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.comwrote: Am 27. Dezember 2011 23:24 schrieb Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com: In my original message I mentioned a chat room and a forum for every Wikipedia article. For chat rooms, yes, an IRC server has to be created

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
Actually, I don't think Wikipedia or Wikimedia Foundation has to do everything. They just need to maintain this platform: Wikipedia, just like Microsoft just needs to maintain Windows and let third party developers to develop apps for Windows. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Yao Ziyuan

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
For example, instead of putting a forum on every Wikipedia article, we can let any third party to provide such a forum externally, and Wikipedia just needs to do a Google query to present these third-party resources (e.g. forums) to the reader. Let's see an concrete example: Suppose a third party

Re: [Foundation-l] Software idea: a Wikipedia Explorer that lets you browse Wikipedia and more

2011-12-27 Thread Yao Ziyuan
Speaking of web applications, why hasn't Wikipedia offered an online ebook creation tool for Chinese Wikipedia? This would be useful. For example, the Great Firewall blocks information on a page basis, but if you put hundreds of pages in a single ebook, one transmission of that ebook will thwart