Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-20 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:08 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 September 2010 12:42, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: It is normal because any standard language has different registers, the dialect has limited registers and in general only for daily and familiar use.

[Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I suppose you may be interested: http://espresso.repubblica.it/dettaglio/el-me-aristotil/2134379/18 But, don't expect it to be an actual usable judgement about those projects, because it's more like a pretext to comment some recent Italian events. A Google translation to English contains only

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Williamson
We have heard this type of criticism before, that lower-prestige varieties or languages that are not official or national languages are somehow intrinsically incapable or unsuited to encyclopedic writing. Article quality on a Wiki is not high or low due to some intrinsic characteristic or trait of

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread theo10011
There is however a direct correlation between poverty and internet access. Regardless of the linguistic diversity, its an issue of usage, the highest read, reviewed and edited articles would have the highest merits in terms of quality and length. It is an issue of reflexivity, lots of contributors

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 19.09.2010 13:01, Marcus Buck wrote: An'n 19.09.2010 11:32, hett Mark Williamson schreven: We have heard this type of criticism before, that lower-prestige varieties or languages that are not official or national languages are somehow intrinsically incapable or unsuited to encyclopedic

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 September 2010 12:42, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: It is normal because any standard language has different registers, the dialect has limited registers and in general only for daily and familiar use. This, by the way, is why we don't have multiple English Wikipedias - in

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Williamson
In the science of linguistics, standard languages are considered to be dialects which, simply through historical and political factors, rather than any intrinsic expressive capabilities, are given added prestige and wider realms of use than other dialects. I am not from Italy, but speaking

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 September 2010 20:08, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: I am not from Italy, but speaking generally about languages and language varieties around the world, I will say that it is true that for the most part, any concept that can be expressed in one language can be expressed in

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The most common different orthographies are those for the American and British spelling.. When it comes to differences between British and American English, the standard version of either can be well understood in either country. Australian English or Jamaican English are less easily

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Williamson
Standard Australian English is very easy to understand for me as a North American speaker of English, especially when written because that eliminates the potential problem of different accents. Standard Jamaican English is easy to understand, perhaps you are thinking of Jamaican Creole, which is

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread geni
On 19 September 2010 21:12, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The most common different orthographies are those for the American and British spelling.. When it comes to differences between British and American English, the standard version of either can be well understood