Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/5 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: 3. A language with ~1-10M speakers from Sub-Saharan Africa. Such language probably has a written form made by some missionaries during the past centuries (or a very similar language has a written form which may be used). However, the most of the

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/4 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: As far as I know, _all_ new languages are supposed to show their possibility at the incubator nowadays, which to me means that there is no need for a separate policy on these languages. My proposal would be: * Give a warning to the proposer that

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The notion that a language is moribund is problematic. Choosing a level of 100 speakers is arbitrary, because who says so. The requirements are that someone who speaks the language natively is part of the starting project is already tough. When people have created an incubator project, the

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The notion of redundancy of articles in minority languages coming from you Milos is painful. There is typically an article of a majority language that arguably covers the subject best. All other articles are redundant because you can use something like Google translate to share the benefit of

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The notion that a language is moribund is problematic. A language is moribund as long as no-one speaking natively that language is objecting. This non-arbitrary definition has become de-facto standard since

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Milos Rancic
I wasn't precise while describing my intention, so I'll try to do it now with responses to the previous emails. * About moribund languages: It is not a precise term, but it is possible to make some description and to realize where are the borders of the term. For example, a language with ~15.000

Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-04 Thread Ting Chen
Well, I remember I read some very interesting articles, mainly from ethnologists in Scientific American about language conservation. Personally I think that language conservation is something that is meaningful and should be done. But I have doubt if WikiMedia can or should host projects for