Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-10 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Ray Saintonge wrote: > From: Ray Saintonge > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - > WP:NOT > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 1:31 AM > Birgitte SB wrote: > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Ray Saintonge
Mark Williamson wrote: > My point is that this situation has arisen many times in the past and > the response is very frequently a simple "We can't help you, it's a > local issue". Of course it should be dealt with at a local level but I > think that the foundation should be a little less hands-off

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Ray Saintonge
Birgitte SB wrote: > I don't know that it is useful to make a general policy for exceptions. I > think it is better just to watch out for such problems to pop up and try to > direct attention to them when they are noticed. > > I think it is a better use of time and energy to wait and react to

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Williamson
rds > misunderstandings even when everyone speaks the same language. > > Birgitte SB > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mark Williamson wrote: > >> From: Mark Williamson >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - >> WP:NOT >> To: &q

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Birgitte SB
know, etc. It is very touchy situation that leans towards misunderstandings even when everyone speaks the same language. Birgitte SB --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mark Williamson wrote: > From: Mark Williamson > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Williamson
Mark Williamson wrote: > >> From: Mark Williamson >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - >> WP:NOT >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:45 PM >> Alright, but what about

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-07 Thread Birgitte SB
as if it were their own personal fiefdom seems > unacceptable to > me. > > Mark > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Birgitte SB > wrote: > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Mark Williamson > wrote: > > > >> From: Mark Williamson > >&

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread wp99 -----
Hi, the replies and discussion have been extremely informative and useful to me. Thank you all. I will carefully read your opinions again, and notify JaWp MailingList of these ideas. Thanks again, Best Regarads ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williamson
on wrote: > >> From: Mark Williamson >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - >> WP:NOT >> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:38 PM >> This problem of one or two >> st

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Luna
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Peter Coombe wrote: > Yes, there's nothing wrong with saying "This policy from en.wp seems > sensible, maybe we should have something similar?" This is different from > slavish imitation. Indeed -- I think Gerard expressed a similar idea. All wikis can and should

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Mark Williamson wrote: > From: Mark Williamson > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - > WP:NOT > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:38 PM > This problem of one o

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williamson
This problem of one or two strong-willed admins enforcing their will over others is not an uncommon problem at smaller Wikis. In many cases, uncommon or strange orthographies, nonstandard dialects, or strange editing rules have been enforced; people who complain are often ignored and referred back

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mike.wikipe...@gmail.com
On 2009-08-06 12:01, Jade Harold wrote: >> Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial as >> WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. > > Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project > try to omit key concepts such as Consensu

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Chad wrote: > Then ask him/her about it off list. This has nothing to do with > foundation-l. > > -Chad > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, > mizusumashi wrote: >> Hello, Huib. >> >> O.K. I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit >> history >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Chad
Then ask him/her about it off list. This has nothing to do with foundation-l. -Chad On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, mizusumashi wrote: > Hello, Huib. > > O.K.  I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit history > or other activity - I think it's very very easy -. > > Huib! wrote: >

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Huib. O.K. I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit history or other activity - I think it's very very easy -. Huib! wrote: > Hello, > > Could you discuss this outside the list? I don't see why it would be > important for this list. > > Best regards, > Huib [[

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Huib!
Hello, Could you discuss this outside the list? I don't see why it would be important for this list. Best regards, Huib -- Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Jade. Jade Harold wrote: > Who are you? and Why you asking me such a thing?? I'm mizusumashi, a Japanese Wikipedia sysop. See: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%A9%E7%94%A8%E8%80%85:Mizusumashi?uselang=en http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5:%E6%8A%95%E7%A8%BF%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%B

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Jade Harold
Hey, Who are you? and Why you asking me such a thing?? Honestly, I don't care who is blocked in a local project, and it's beyond of my concern. Plus, truly puzzling, your interest of my activity. Purpose? Explain. 2009/8/6 mizusumashi > Hello, Jade. > > Wp99 is blocked as a sock puppet of very

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread mizusumashi
Hello, Jade. Wp99 is blocked as a sock puppet of very long term abuse user suspected using enormous sock puppets in jawp. I know my following request is rude, but I can't find your activity. Jade, please give me your edit history in any project. Jade Harold wrote: >> Trying to press a en.wp pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Coombe
2009/8/6 Jade Harold > >Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial > as WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. > > Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project > try to omit key concepts such as Consensus Policy. WP:NOT#DE

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The policies of the English language Wikipedia have evolved over many years and they suit a large world wide audience who is largely part of the Anglo American world. Many other Wikipedias reflect a culture which is distinctly different. with different value systems. These projects slowly but

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Jade Harold
>Trying to press a en.wp policy(especially one as broad and controversial as >WP:NOT) on anyone else is foolish and likely to be resisted. Pete, I disagree with you especially in a case that a local project try to omit key concepts such as Consensus Policy. WP:NOT#DEMO and WP:NOTLAW are generally

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Coombe
It means global to the English Wikipedia, someone should probably change that. Different languages and projects are largely independent of each other, and can have their own policies. The only requirement is that they follow the founding principles ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Founding_principl

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Policy Interlingual Coordinationn - WP:NOT

2009-08-05 Thread wp99 -----
Hi, currently, I participate a process to translate Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and import that to JaWp. Since WP:NOT is a Global Principle according to the right box of the page, I naturally insist to import this document as it is without modifications, at least without major modifications for