On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
> > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Thomas Dalton >wrote:
> >
> >> Edit conflicts with live editing aren't an issue, manual resolution is
> >> trivial. Edit conflicts with significant delays are a much bigger
> >> proble
Hoi,
Wave DOES have a license and it is neither BSD nor GPL. It is however very
much open source. You can create a GPL licensed implementation of Wave but
that would not be acceptable as production code that is to be used in
association with proposed changes to the protocol.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> Edit conflicts with live editing aren't an issue, manual resolution is
>> trivial. Edit conflicts with significant delays are a much bigger
>> problem and require automated merging, which isn't always possible,
>> and
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Edit conflicts with live editing aren't an issue, manual resolution is
> trivial. Edit conflicts with significant delays are a much bigger
> problem and require automated merging, which isn't always possible,
> and is often very difficult.
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Dalton
> wrote:
>
>> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
>> > If you watched the Wave presentation you'll see that there is quite a bit
>> of
>> > edit conflict handling already built in (they showed three people editing
>> > the same page simultaneou
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
> > If you watched the Wave presentation you'll see that there is quite a bit
> of
> > edit conflict handling already built in (they showed three people editing
> > the same page simultaneously).
>
> I did watch it. That
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> If you watched the Wave presentation you'll see that there is quite a bit of
> edit conflict handling already built in (they showed three people editing
> the same page simultaneously).
I did watch it. That was live, they could see each other editing and
avoid each other. The
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Wave might replace parts of MediaWiki but it would not replace Wikipedia...
> To appreciate this, you have to realise what it is the WMF stands for..
It stands for the Wikimedia Foundation.
It is content first and foremost.
No, it's
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Mark Williamson wrote:
> Your idea that the fact that the statistic counts over 25% of US
> Americans as not being internet users must mean a very strict
> definition is used is not necessarily correct.
Touche. I was equating "internet user" with "someone with
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Gerard Meijssen :
> > Hoi,
> > Much of the Wave functionality demonstrated is superior to what is
> > available in MediaWiki. Consider a LAN with OPLC systems, consider a Wave
> > server on the school server.. It would be pretty d
Hoi,
Wave might replace parts of MediaWiki but it would not replace Wikipedia...
To appreciate this, you have to realise what it is the WMF stands for.. It
is content first and foremost. MediaWiki is our current software. It is
great software and it has great functionality. When the Wave software i
> That's a pretty important question. If not being an internet user just
> means that you have internet at the library and not in your home, the method
> to reach such people is much different. Considering that the United States
> is listed at 74.7%, I'm sure "internet user" is defined too strict
2009/5/31 Gerard Meijssen :
> Hoi,
> Much of the Wave functionality demonstrated is superior to what is
> available in MediaWiki. Consider a LAN with OPLC systems, consider a Wave
> server on the school server.. It would be pretty damn good to be able to
> have all kinds of activities that makes u
It's interesting thinking about it this way, because Wave could potentially
even replace Wikipedia. Transfer the contents of a Wikipedia article to
Wave, and make a widget to display the current article (or, even better, the
latest approved version). Now anyone can start a mirror with virtually n
Hoi,
Much of the Wave functionality demonstrated is superior to what is
available in MediaWiki. Consider a LAN with OPLC systems, consider a Wave
server on the school server.. It would be pretty damn good to be able to
have all kinds of activities that makes use of the functionality that is
part o
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
>
> > Now my understanding is that the protocol for interserver communication
> > isn't completed, and who knows it may be vaporware. But it's an
> intriguing
> > possibility. (As I said in a previous message, finally t
2009/5/31 Gerard Meijssen :
> Hoi,
> Wave in its reference implementation relies on HTML 5. This means that it
> requires a modern browser. With a browser it is possible to access data that
> is on a LAN or on the local computer. This would allow us to have
> "Wikipedia" type content stored locally
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> Now my understanding is that the protocol for interserver communication
> isn't completed, and who knows it may be vaporware. But it's an intriguing
> possibility. (As I said in a previous message, finally the platform I need
> for P2Pedia is here.)
Wave sounds more like
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
> One question is how
> will resources will react when newer data becomes available, will it
> synchronise?
That seems to be part of the protocol. You'd set up a bot which makes the
updates, and add it. Someone on the LAN would have to ru
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
> > If Waves works anything like email, then it will be possible to use it
> when
> > not directly connected to the Internet. How's that for helping get
> > Wikipedia to people without Internet access?
>
> Not very. Waves
Hoi,
Wave in its reference implementation relies on HTML 5. This means that it
requires a modern browser. With a browser it is possible to access data that
is on a LAN or on the local computer. This would allow us to have
"Wikipedia" type content stored locally or on a LAN. One question is how
will
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> If Waves works anything like email, then it will be possible to use it when
> not directly connected to the Internet. How's that for helping get
> Wikipedia to people without Internet access?
Not very. Waves, like email, should work for people with intermittent
internet acce
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/5/31 Anthony :
> > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Brian
> wrote:
> >
> >> How does Google Wave help the WMF achieve its goals?
> >
> >
> > Not sure, it doesn't really exist yet. I'm sure there will be numerous
> ways
> > in which it
2009/5/31 Anthony :
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Brian wrote:
>
>> How does Google Wave help the WMF achieve its goals?
>
>
> Not sure, it doesn't really exist yet. I'm sure there will be numerous ways
> in which it can do it, though.
While we could move this mailing list over to Waves and
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Brian wrote:
> How does Google Wave help the WMF achieve its goals?
Not sure, it doesn't really exist yet. I'm sure there will be numerous ways
in which it can do it, though.
Wikipedia has already become a dominant information source for the 1.5
> billion peop
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