Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:57 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > GNOME is People. Do you have any evidence that the Moroccan *people* > are opposed to the values GNOME stands for? > > I think the Moroccan *people* are not the issue. > > "Those people have an oppressing > regime, ignore

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Where in the world with the highest concentration of GNOME and KDE > community? This thread has so far been considering the GNOME community > only. Both communities have their strongest presence in Europe. - Jeff -- GUADEC 2008: Istanbul, Turkey http://www.guadec.org

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:33 -0400, Clare So wrote: > > Where in the world with the highest concentration of GNOME and KDE > community? This thread has so far been considering the GNOME > community only. KDE is even more Euro-centric -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essent

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Clare So
> As for me, the reason not pushing for Canada is that a GNOME community > in Canada is surprisingly non-existent. Sure, there's you, me, and > desrt. But that's pretty much it. Is there anyone from Western Canada? You, me, desrt and Hub are living in the Eastern part of the country. I agre

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Richard Stallman
- US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast process like most European countries are. It literally takes months to get a US visa for those of us that need one. And many people going to GUADEC need one. I think it would be a good thing for GNOME to make a pro

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Richard Stallman
GNOME is People. Do you have any evidence that the Moroccan *people* are opposed to the values GNOME stands for? I think the Moroccan *people* are not the issue. "Those people have an oppressing regime, ignore them" is not a really compelling idea to me. If the purpose of hold

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Germán Poó-Caamaño <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For what it is worth, we have discussed GUADLAC in previous years (I > > think as far back as 2004, maybe 2003?) but it typically foundered on > > travel costs, which were always unacceptably high for some la

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Germán Poó-Caamaño
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 18:16 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Boaventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Jonh Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, It would be really, really, amazing! > > > > > > GUADLAC, as Behdad sugge

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 15:12 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:43 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:03 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > > > > Except that we have been advertising it as "GUADEC, The GNOME > > > Conference" for the past couple of ye

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:42 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > An aside: some of my preferred locations for GUADEC would be (planting > ideas in the heads of possible organisers): > > Amsterdam > Frankfurt > Paris > Brussels > Geneva > Milan FYI, Akademy is in Belgium this year. Hub _

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Boaventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Jonh Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, It would be really, really, amazing! > > > > GUADLAC, as Behdad suggested. A GNOME Conference in Americas, with the > > same struc

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Bruno Boaventura
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Jonh Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, It would be really, really, amazing! > > GUADLAC, as Behdad suggested. A GNOME Conference in Americas, with the > same structure as GUADEC (aka sponsorship). > > /me wonders about a huge GNOME crowd here in Brazil.

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > For the first time we also invite proposals to hold GUADEC and Akademy, > the KDE community conference, at the same time, in the same location. > Proposals should detail plans for hosting up to 800 attendees, with > separate facilities available for Akademy and GUADEC

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hey On 4/22/08, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: > > > > > I too would appreciate another North/Central/South America based > > conference if GUADEC can't be moved across the pond occasionally. > > However, I suspect that beca

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Ter, 2008-04-22 às 12:13 -0700, Ted Gould escreveu: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > > > has less strict rules ab

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 15:43 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 20:34 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > > has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the > > Americans might feel that it is a

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 20:34 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the > Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is > in Europe. This American

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:42 +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > Cool! > > Proposed location for the first joint GUADEC/aKademy: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth ;) > > (Alternative, sunny locations come to mind though) /me suggests that foundation hire Quim to do GUADEC's

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Quim Gil
Cool! Proposed location for the first joint GUADEC/aKademy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth ;) (Alternative, sunny locations come to mind though) On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Hubert Figuiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note also that Summer is probably the >

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Ted Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > > > has le

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: > > I too would appreciate another North/Central/South America based > conference if GUADEC can't be moved across the pond occasionally. > However, I suspect that because the GNOME summit is held in Boston > every year we will have to make d

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:03 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for > > travel. Bangalore has the same problem that US has. Too far... That > > said,

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:38 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > > has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the > > Americans mi

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:43 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:03 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > > Except that we have been advertising it as "GUADEC, The GNOME > > Conference" for the past couple of years. Maybe we should make that > > official. > > > > About GUADEC o

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 04:38 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always > is in > > Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences? > > GUADEC and the Boston Summit. :-) Except that we don't pay for travel to Boston Summit. We are launching GN

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for > travel. Bangalore has the same problem that US has. Too far... That > said, I love to see GUADEC '11 in Morocco for example... I wouldn't. GN

Re: FISL - summary

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 12:42 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote: > Hi, folks. > > FISL - the biggest FLOSS event in Brazil - is over. Thank you bunches John for representing GNOME at the event, blogging regularly about it, and sending this update! Cheers, behdad > Thanks to Foundation, GNOME was repre

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 14:03 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > Except that we have been advertising it as "GUADEC, The GNOME > Conference" for the past couple of years. Maybe we should make that > official. > > About GUADEC out of Europe, that's fine as long as the place is Ok for > travel. Ban

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Thomas Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's something I think might be useful: > > If we had a list of where everyone attending aKademy and GUADEC will > come from (which might be decently approximated by seeing where they > came from last year), we can

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is in > Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences? GUADEC and the Boston Summit. :-) - Jeff -- OSCON 2008: Portland OR, USA http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/ "Imagine a four million line code base that i

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:34 PM, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico > has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the > Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is > in E

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
Usa isn't the only country in North America. Maybe Canada or Mexico has less strict rules about visas? It is not hard to imagine that the Americans might feel that it is a little unfair that guadec always is in Europe. Couldn't there be two conferences? 2008/4/22, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED

KDE e.V. and the GNOME Foundation to co-host flagship conferences

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
The boards of KDE e.V. and the GNOME Foundation have issued a call to co-host Akademy and GUADEC, the flagship conferences of the KDE and GNOME projects respectively, during the Summer of 2009. This would be the first time that the conferences are to be co-hosted. The combined conference is expect

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 03:41 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in > Bangalore > > still in play, by the way? > > The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-) Except that we have been advertising it as "GUADEC, The GNOME Conference" for th

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > > > Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in Bangalore > > still in play, by the way? > > The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-) Aha, was this more in reference to the text of the CfH? In that case, it's a minor disconnect between norms of each organisation and c

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Is the rule about having GUADEC in Europe rather than, say, in Bangalore > still in play, by the way? The 'E' still stands for Europe, yeah. ;-) - Jeff -- GUADEC 2008: Istanbul, Turkey http://www.guadec.org/ "The two [separate] UIs are both incredibly simple and

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Og Maciel
Hi Behdad, Thanks for the quick reply. > - US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast > process like most European countries are. It literally takes months to > get a US visa for those of us that need one. And many people going to > GUADEC need one. Unfortunately you're

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 01:24:06PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > There are two main issues with having GUADEC in the US: > > - The Big Pond. It's just more travel to fly everyone to the US. > > - US visa. It's a real issue. It's not a predictable and fast > process like most European cou

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 13:17 -0400, Og Maciel wrote: > Hi there, > > As I'd love to see GUADEC (as well as Akademy) being hosted in North > Carolina, and as this is not an official bid, I was wondering if there > is anyone interested in helping/coaching me? I don't have any > experience with this k

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Og Maciel
Hi there, As I'd love to see GUADEC (as well as Akademy) being hosted in North Carolina, and as this is not an official bid, I was wondering if there is anyone interested in helping/coaching me? I don't have any experience with this kind of activity, but I do know a lot of people and we have big c

Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009 == The GNOME Foundation invites proposals to host GUADEC, the annual GNOME conference, during the Summer of 2009. GUADEC is the biggest gathering of GNOME users and developers and includes a three-day conference, the annual general meetin

FISL - summary

2008-04-22 Thread Jonh Wendell
Hi, folks. FISL - the biggest FLOSS event in Brazil - is over. Thanks to Foundation, GNOME was represented there, with a talk and a booth. Lots of people stopped at our booth to have a chat with us, mainly asking for our presence in other events and asking how to contribute. I would like to than