Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, john palmieri wrote: I'm of the same mind here. There are a number of people who I don't like to read on blogs and whatnot but I would rather us as a community figure out productive ways of dealing with it as opposed to lording our own views over those who don't have as much pull in the c

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread john palmieri
I'm of the same mind here. There are a number of people who I don't like to read on blogs and whatnot but I would rather us as a community figure out productive ways of dealing with it as opposed to lording our own views over those who don't have as much pull in the community. Red tape and dracon

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 05/31/2009 07:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: You mean how someone should behave? What is socially acceptable somewhere is totally not acceptable elsewhere (eating with mouth open and making noises). Every time I'm in major airports, can't help but notice the HSBC 'Your Point of View' ads. Che

Re: Subject: One other question for the candidates

2009-06-01 Thread Brian Cameron
RMS asks: > What do you think GNOME should do to support the broader cause of > free/libre software, and the freedom of computer users? Aside from providing and promoting a free desktop stack, I think it is important to promote free desktop standards. I would like to see closer ties between th

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Benjamin Otte
Stormy Peters gmail.com> writes: > I too have found the GNOME community to be extremely welcoming. I got met at > my first GUADEC in 2001 with "You're a girl!" from a very excited woman > manning the registration desk.But I can't ignore the fact that people are > leaving our community or being

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 13:06 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Here's the nut of the issue. > > I want the board to protect people from being shouted down by people who > disagree with them. > > You want the board to not make waves among the shouters. I think an ombudsman wouldn't be a bad idea. W

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 12:30 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > What do you think will happen in reality once you do that? > > Flowers and sugar? Happiness and joy? Group laughter? Babies?! > > That would be quite naive to hope for, wouldn't it? okay, I now think it's time for me to come out and fi

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Philip Van Hoof wrote: You publicly embarrassed an individual at item number two. And no, you can't make your item number two look any better by trying to escape it. The person will hate you, will hate the board and will start persuading other people to join him. And for many people he

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 11:04 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > > Dave's ten steps mean that as soon as you refuse to publicly apologize > > for , his foundation board will kick you > > and your project out of GNOME. > > "My ten steps" were, as I pointed out, a list of measures which I feel > te boad s

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Philip Van Hoof wrote: May I add to this: Dave's ten steps mean that as soon as you refuse to publicly apologize for , his foundation board will kick you and your project out of GNOME. "My ten steps" were, as I pointed out, a list of measures which I feel te boad should have at its disposi