Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Jim Nelson
I told myself I would not get involved in this subject, but I have to say a couple of things. First, there's a lot of talk (here and the earlier thread) that loosely equivocates fundraising with crowdfunding. They're not the same. To tell a project that it should simply accept donations rath

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread meg ford
Hi Magdalen, On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: > I think you have agreed with me on the wiki and the blog but seem to not > realise that, for some strange reason. To clarify, I agreed that > individuals should be able to make their own choices for how they blog and > pointed

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Magdalen Berns
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:12 AM, meg ford wrote: > Hi, > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Christian Hergert > wrote: > >> On 01/05/2015 03:44 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: >> > To elaborate on the point about fundraisers a little further: Also >> > though I have to wonder whether future fundraisers co

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Magdalen Berns
> > If crowdfunding was a service that the GNOME foundation offered it's > members, I would be in favor of that. However, as it stands today, I > believe this would cause undue burden on the board. > It's hard to say without thrashing it out but I definitely think it's worth thrashing it out, othe

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread meg ford
Hi, On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Christian Hergert wrote: > On 01/05/2015 03:44 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: > > To elaborate on the point about fundraisers a little further: Also > > though I have to wonder whether future fundraisers could maybe be > > handled in the same way as the groupon fund

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Christian Hergert
On 01/05/2015 03:44 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: > To elaborate on the point about fundraisers a little further: Also > though I have to wonder whether future fundraisers could maybe be > handled in the same way as the groupon fundraiser was managed. > http://www.gnome.org/groupon/ since that did not

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi all, Whist this is a bit entertaining, I think we can all see where it is headed... On balance, there really is only one practical reason to bring up the past and that is for the sake of being able to reliably anticipate the future. So, I have to urge people again to try to move the discussion

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Christian Hergert wrote: The problem is that it takes *months* to prepare a proper crowdfunding campaign. So if you didn't suggest crowdsupply to me back at the hackfest, it was simply *too late* to be reasonably actionable (despite that I might agree it would

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-05 Thread Christian Hergert
On 01/03/2015 07:48 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > That's because the several crowdfunding sites I had investigated all > had the same unethical practice of requiring donors to run nonfree > software. There was not one that we could use without contradicting > the principles of the free software mo

Re: Builder crowdsourcing banner on PGO

2015-01-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 06:18:03PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Is anyone against placing a banner on PGO to support Builder's campaign on > IndieGoGo? The campaign is going alright but I think it's in our best > interest as a community that we push to make sure he gets the 100K and can > work on t