On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 06:18:03PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> Is anyone against placing a banner on PGO to support Builder's campaign on
> IndieGoGo? The campaign is going alright but I think it's in our best
> interest as a community that we push to make sure he gets the 100K and can
> work on t
> does
> anyone else here use IceCat or LibreJS and believe that donating to the
> Builder campaign via Indiegogo is unethical due to its use of
> obfuscated Javascipt?
That's not quite what I said. The act of donating is not unethical.
Running that nonfree software hurts you, but no o
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> Hmm I am not so sure: The chip in your own card
There is no chip in my ATM card,
My question was if someone was against it. Some people is against any
website with obfuscated javascript (a concern and a discussion worth the
while from a FOSS perspective I think, but beyond practical in this
context), there seems to be consensus that supporting this campaign is the
right thing.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> I would _really_ appreciate if you guys held a discussion about things that
> quite frankly don't have anything to do with my original question in a
> different thread. Thank you.
Your question was if we should add a link to the campaign on a
I would _really_ appreciate if you guys held a discussion about things that
quite frankly don't have anything to do with my original question in a
different thread. Thank you.
2015-01-03 3:21 GMT+00:00 Michael Catanzaro :
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Magdalen Berns
> wrote:
>
> Hmm
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Magdalen Berns
wrote:
Hmm I am not so sure: The chip in your own card will be programmed
with non-free software technically the transaction can't work unless
the ATM is reading that. For the ATM to read your chip you are
required you to physically connect
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > Are we considering not linking to this fundraiser because it is hosted
> on a
> > website that uses non-free software?
>
> That depends what you mean by "considering".
> Several people are arguing vigorously against that idea,
> but
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Can someone tell me the URL of the Builder project's own site?
Here it is: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Builder/
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> If are you really concerned about people using non free software, you
> should take everything in consideration, no?
It would be a mistake to "take everything i
> Are we considering not linking to this fundraiser because it is hosted on a
> website that uses non-free software?
That depends what you mean by "considering".
Several people are arguing vigorously against that idea,
but nobody proposed it and nobody advocates it.
The issue I've raised is n
I generally take these things step by step. Explaining the problem
(with supporting Builder through Indiegogo) is the first step.
Solving it (finding another way) is the next step.
I expect that some of the people on this list already know the
situation with Builder and could quickly propose anot
> 1) Which bank is used for keeping/receiving money for FSF?.
I'd rather not give out that information.
> 2) Are you sure that any kind of nonfree software is not used for
> anyone in the bank?
"Used for anyone in the bank" is not ordinary English usage and I can
only guess what meaning yo
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I wrote:
> > IndieGoGo has an ethical problem: to donate requires running nonfree
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:31 AM, meg ford wrote:
> I also support putting a banner on Planet GNOME.
>
> Meg
>
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On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Magdalen Berns
wrote:
> Oh dear.
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Alexandre Franke
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Fabiano Fidê
Oh dear.
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio
wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Alexandre Franke
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio
> wrote:
> >>> Can you be more explicit about what you mean with "tools used to do
> >>> your/the bank transactions
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Alexandre Franke
wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>>> Can you be more explicit about what you mean with "tools used to do
>>> your/the bank transactions run nonfree software"
>>
>> AFAIU, when you do a bank transfer, the job responsi
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>> Can you be more explicit about what you mean with "tools used to do
>> your/the bank transactions run nonfree software"
>
> AFAIU, when you do a bank transfer, the job responsible for your
> transaction will be executed in the next schedul
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Alexandre Franke
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>>> > 4) If not, considering that your bank have some people running nonfree
>>> > software, should not we close the bank account once we would be paying
>>> > for someone use a nonf
Hi,
Right. So, to recap: those who are objecting have never used a credit/debit
card to buy stuff or get cash out the wall?
What seems to be being suggested by some members of the community here, is
that it's physically possible to achieve certain everything we wish to do
in the technological wor
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>> > 4) If not, considering that your bank have some people running nonfree
>> > software, should not we close the bank account once we would be paying
>> > for someone use a nonfree software and it is an ethical problem?
>>
>> The issue Rich
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
>
> What nonfree software is needed? I think I don't have nonfree software, but
> I donated without problems.
>
> He doesn't like obfuscated JavaScript:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/
On Jan 1, 2015 5:23 PM, "Alexandre Franke"
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio
wrote:
> > 4) If not, considering that your bank have some people running nonfree
> > software, should not we close the bank account once we would be paying
> > for someone use a nonfree softwar
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> 4) If not, considering that your bank have some people running nonfree
> software, should not we close the bank account once we would be paying
> for someone use a nonfree software and it is an ethical problem?
The issue Richard is pointin
Richard,
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
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> > Is a
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
What nonfree software is needed? I think I don't have nonfree
software, but I donated without problems.
He doesn't like obfuscated JavaScript:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
Let's not let that hold us back from support
-Igor Gnatenko
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> > Is
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> Is anyone against placing a banner on PGO to support Builder's campaign on
> In
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> Hello Foundation members,
Hey,
> Is anyone against placing a banner on PGO to support Builder's campaign on
> IndieGoGo? The campaign is going alright but I think it's in our best
> interest as a community that we push to make sure he gets t
Hello Foundation members,
Is anyone against placing a banner on PGO to support Builder's campaign on
IndieGoGo? The campaign is going alright but I think it's in our best
interest as a community that we push to make sure he gets the 100K and can
work on this full time for the whole year.
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