On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
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> conference in one go. Also why the Linux Foundation (Gold in GUADEC
> 2008) didn't come back in the Summit? Was this a consequence of the
> co-location or would have happened anyway with the Global Crisis? And
> Intel, and ARM...?
The Linux F
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:43 AM, john
palmieri wrote:
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>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
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>> So I guess there is no way back.
>>
>> Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the
>> polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel,
>> rol
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, john
palmieri wrote:
[snipping out parts of an well thought out response]
> To sum it all up - fools rush in. We really need to take a step back and
> really try to understand what we wish to accomplish in another co-located
> event given the grand experiment of
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
> So I guess there is no way back.
>
> Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the
> polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel,
> roll-up ad in the main entrance, etc. Many GNOME people said they
> di
On 08/12/2009 04:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
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> Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the
> polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel,
> roll-up ad in the main entrance, etc. Many GNOME people said they
> didn't felt 'at home' in such context. But that
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
> Actually many GNOME people that was not enthusiastic about a second
> joint summit mentioned that one of the problems was that the agenda
> didn't help meeting peers with similar interests from the other side.
> Something that could be achieved wit
So I guess there is no way back.
Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the
polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel,
roll-up ad in the main entrance, etc. Many GNOME people said they
didn't felt 'at home' in such context. But that is something eas
On 08/12/2009 09:22 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
Maybe if the foundation's board would more clearly articulate why
exactly we can't do a co-located event*next* year, they'll convince the
community about their decision? Why didn't they?
My personal view as a board member:
Individual board member
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 17:05 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> >> It was a hard decision because, there is real interest in making KDE
> >> and GNOME work well together. While this is also an important goal,
> >> but we don't need to co-loca
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:05 AM, sankarshan wrote:
> [taking foundation-announce out of the cc: fields]
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan
> wrote:
>
> [snippet]
>
> > The main, and most important, reason for not wanting to co-locate
> > next year is because the GNOME commun
[taking foundation-announce out of the cc: fields]
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
[snippet]
> The main, and most important, reason for not wanting to co-locate
> next year is because the GNOME community needs to focus on GNOME 3.0,
> and next year's GUADEC will be t
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 10:36 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
>
> [CUT]
>
>> > You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate
>> > next year. Even if it means not
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 10:36 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
[CUT]
> > You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate
> > next year. Even if it means not having a profit.
> >
> > Can you elaborate why the board didn't
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
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> Majority wants to co-locate next year
>
>> * 55% collaborated with a KDE /GNOME person, 29% did not
>
>
> You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate
> next year. Even if it means not having a profit.
>
> Can you e
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate
> next year. Even if it means not having a profit.
>
> Can you elaborate why the board didn't first discuss this decision with
> the community?
I was also confused by what
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:09 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Here are the survey results with a summary I did initially.
>
> Note that this was a survey, not a vote.
Sure,
But if a majority of the responders in all configurations picked that
they want to co-locate next year, even if it means no pro
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:09 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Of the GNOME people who collaborated with a KDE person:
> * 78% said it went well, 7% said it didn't
> * 67% said we should co-locate next year, 29% said no
> * 28% said we should co-locate in the future but not next year, 25%
> said no
> *
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:06 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
>> > Apologizes for asking.
>> >
>> > When was the community consulted about this decision?
>>
>> There was a survey request
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:06 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> > Apologizes for asking.
> >
> > When was the community consulted about this decision?
>
> There was a survey request on the foundation list about the opinion
> from the members.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> Apologizes for asking.
>
> When was the community consulted about this decision?
There was a survey request on the foundation list about the opinion
from the members.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-July/msg6.html
-S
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:10 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> The cooperation and conversations that began between
> the KDE and GNOME communities will continue into the future and in
> events like hackfests throughout the year, but next year the conferences
> will be hosted separately.
Apologizes for
This year's Gran Canaria Desktop Summit represented the first time the
GNOME and KDE communities have co-located their annual conferences in
the same location. 852 free software advocates from 46 countries
gathered together last week to discuss and enhance the free desktop
experience at the first e
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