Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Hans-Jörg Vasold
- Original Message - From: "Florian Klaempfl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FPC developers' list" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: - Original Message - From: "Florian Klaempfl" <[EMAIL

Re: [fpc-devel] Extend the libraries people!

2005-06-05 Thread Bisma Jayadi
Object pascal is a mature language. Some languages even adopt the concept, such as C# or Java, with different syntaxes and styles. Do not listen to people who said pascal is a toy language, they just don't know what they're talking about. Then, if we are talking about the object pascal compilers

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > using them hard or impossible becomes a toy language. > > But it doesn't. The only time they are a problem is when the stuff you > are storing in the tree or list is an *object* and that *object* points > back to either the container or the list that stores it (which is very > rarely done).

Re: [fpc-devel] TMySQLConnection.LoadField field length

2005-06-05 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Sorry for the late reply.. On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 19:03 +0200, Bram Kuijvenhoven wrote: > After understanding what a VARCHAR is (namely some sort of shortstring > with a fixed maximum length), I wanted first to know whether a newer > MySQL server reports proper field lengths for fields like 'FORMAT

Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Florian Klaempfl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "FPC developers' list" > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Florian Klaempfl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "FPC developers' list" > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words > > >> Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: >> >>> StrUpper, StrLower w

Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Hans-Jörg Vasold
- Original Message - From: "Florian Klaempfl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FPC developers' list" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: StrUpper, StrLower will not work for the german "äöüß". Are an

Re: [fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Hans-Jörg Vasold wrote: > StrUpper, StrLower will not work for the german "äöüß". > > Are any equivalent functions like Delphi's AnsiUpperCase or any fix AnsiUpperCase? > available ? > > thx > > Hans Joerg > > ___ > fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel

[fpc-devel] using strupper,strlower on german words

2005-06-05 Thread Hans-Jörg Vasold
StrUpper, StrLower will not work for the german "äöüß". Are any equivalent functions like Delphi's AnsiUpperCase or any fix available ? thx Hans Joerg ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jamie McCracken wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > I suggest you create an external preprocessor, and limit yourself to > > that. > > > > I don't consider your construct to be Pascal, so I will fight inclusion > > of it in the compiler, not even under some {$Mode} co

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread L505
| will respect your wishes and no feelings will be hurt. I believe it will | help Pascal and breathe new life into it especially as its a dying | language. I also note there is no such thing as "Pascal" as such even | Delphi has significant syntax differences with earlier pascal variants | so I ho

[moderator] Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 05 Jun 2005, at 15:22, Jamie McCracken wrote: I believe it will help Pascal and breathe new life into it especially as its a dying language. And with the above insightful and undoubtedly uncontroversial comment I think we can close this thread here. I would therefore like to ask all p

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I suggest you create an external preprocessor, and limit yourself to that. I don't consider your construct to be Pascal, so I will fight inclusion of it in the compiler, not even under some {$Mode} construct. Well all I ask is you wait til I have written it then g

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jamie McCracken wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jamie McCracken wrote: > > > > > > > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Not at all; I certainly don't indent them, and I'm a fanatical > > > > > indenter. > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
Daniël Mantione wrote: Op Sun, 5 Jun 2005, schreef Jamie McCracken: yes but isn't it fair to say that such developers that require such structures would be knowledgable enough to make it safe by using weak refs? What is a weak ref? Allows you to make a reference without increasing or aff

Re: [fpc-devel] compiler/utils/samplecfg, FPCWiki

2005-06-05 Thread Olle Raab
05-06-04 08.41, skrev Tom Verhoeff följande: > In the source repository, the current version for > trunk/compiler/utils/samplecfg > has a line > > #-Fu~/fpc/packages/base/*/units/$fpctarget;~/fpc/fcll/units/$fpctarget;~/fpc/r > tl/units/$fpctarget > > Since it is commented out, it does not matte

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Sun, 5 Jun 2005, schreef Jamie McCracken: > yes but isn't it fair to say that such developers that require such > structures would be knowledgable enough to make it safe by using weak refs? What is a weak ref? > My point is that the everyday structures that most developers (and in > particu

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
L505 wrote: Now there are some bondage discipline languages and Pascal is considered one.. even though it's not case sensitive.. isn't indentation sort of bondage-discipline? of course it is - any formal language will have some "bondage" in their syntax. Indentation and Begin..End are such e

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
Daniël Mantione wrote: Op Sun, 5 Jun 2005, schreef Jamie McCracken: Its not a black or white issue IMO its a shade of grey. At the end of the day you have to make a judgement call based on the facts. Im asserting that with non-component objects the incidence of cycles is so rare that provided

Re: [fpc-devel] Extend the libraries people!

2005-06-05 Thread L505
Neat, I haven't come across these yet. If you -have- got some working under FPC you should upload them to "contributed units" section. Because if other people convert the units which have already been done by someone else, we would be doing double work ;-) Plus it gets code into a central reposi

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread L505
| yes you are right it exists for the benefit of the compiler rather than | the developer. incorrect. When reading code I always use the bold begin/end's. Why do you think they are bold? Are they bold because the compiler likes them bold? See, a bold begin and end is a lot easier to see than a

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Sun, 5 Jun 2005, schreef Jamie McCracken: > Its not a black or white issue IMO its a shade of grey. At the end of > the day you have to make a judgement call based on the facts. Im > asserting that with non-component objects the incidence of cycles is so > rare that provided we have a means o

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread L505
| | lol - thats not what I meant. If you want readable code you indent | inside the begin..end blocks ergo the begin..end syntax becomes | redundant cause its the indentation that provides the visual cue. | That's like taking question marks out of sentences that you know are questions. Why have

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jamie McCracken wrote: Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Not at all; I certainly don't indent them, and I'm a fanatical indenter. Agreed. I really can't understand why some people indent like this: if ... then begin ... end else if ... lol

Re: [fpc-devel] Extend the libraries people!

2005-06-05 Thread David Butler
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 01:26:34 -0400, you wrote: >> What makes python interesting are the many classes it offers by default >> to perform standard tasks, especially in the text treatment department; >> regular expression stuff etc. >> >> The same goes for most languages; Mostly it's not the language

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Jamie McCracken wrote: > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > > > Not at all; I certainly don't indent them, and I'm a fanatical > > > indenter. > > > > > > Agreed. I really can't understand why some people indent like this: > > if ... > > then > > begin > > ... > > end > > e

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Jamie McCracken
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Not at all; I certainly don't indent them, and I'm a fanatical indenter. Agreed. I really can't understand why some people indent like this: if ... then begin ... end else if ... lol - thats not what I meant. If you want readab

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Jamie McCracken wrote: > Those lazarus tools are great but they require advance knowledge of > those tools that new users wont have (at least somebody using lazarus > for the first time is not going to know all the keyboard shortcuts). Not > having to rely on hacks around the coding inefficiency o

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: [fpc-l] type discussion

2005-06-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > Begin..End is redundant - you have to indent them to make em readable > > anyways. > > > Not at all; I certainly don't indent them, and I'm a fanatical > indenter. Agreed. I really can't understand why some people indent like this: if ... then begin