[fpc-devel] StrDispose FreeMem with size

2006-10-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Hi, At cutils line 926, FreeMem is called for p with size strlen(p)+1. Could it be that actually a much bigger block was allocated, and not size strlen(p)+1 ? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/ma

Re: Re[3]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Rimgaudas Laucius
Maybe this is off topic, but some interesting information about floating point operations could be found at http://vod.niif.hu/index.php?lg=en&mn=archive&eid=47&sm=listevent&secid=85. I recommend you to check "Can we trust floating-point numbers?" by Paul Zimmermann. ISO/IEC 10967-3 "Informatio

Re[3]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Пётр Косаревский
> Why do you think that scientific notation is used by default? >> I personally prefer "-0.000" in this case. It's just a personal preference. A weak argument: If you write a program "grandma" should use, you can always add an extra check if she complains (and it will be only one of the many "ex

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: examples when you answered with "Like?". I therefore gave a link to a wikipedia article which shows that the sign matters e.g. when dividing by zero (positive or negative infinity), and the article also gives some Well I meant a "real practical" difference, not something at

Re[2]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Thu, 12 Oct 2006, schreef ???: > "Format" primarily produces strings for users, not for programmers. Why do you think that scientific notation is used by default? Daniël___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 12 okt 2006, at 16:31, Micha Nelissen wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Like ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_zero Jonas being succinct as ever :) And not answering the question ... sigh. As shown there, you never notice the difference in result. I don't understand what you m

Re[2]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Пётр Косаревский
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_zero > Jonas Nice link: "In science, −0 may be used to denote a quantity which is less than zero, but which is too small in magnitude to be rounded down to −1." "Format" primarily produces strings for users, not for programmers. ___

Re[4]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Thu, 12 Oct 2006, schreef ???: > > representable in an exact way on any IEEE standard-compliant fpu. The > > Of course. But the result of "format" is user-oriented. User is not supposed > to know about negative zero, denormal numbers, negative infinity and the > whole IEEE 7

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Like ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_zero Jonas being succinct as ever :) And not answering the question ... sigh. As shown there, you never notice the difference in result. Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 12 okt 2006, at 15:46, Micha Nelissen wrote: > > >Jonas Maebe wrote: > > >can still be one (meaning that it's a negative zero). And for some fpu > > >calculations this even matters. > > > >Like ? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_zero he

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 12 okt 2006, at 15:46, Micha Nelissen wrote: Jonas Maebe wrote: can still be one (meaning that it's a negative zero). And for some fpu calculations this even matters. Like ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_zero Jonas ___ fpc-devel mai

Re[4]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Пётр Косаревский
> representable in an exact way on any IEEE standard-compliant fpu. The Of course. But the result of "format" is user-oriented. User is not supposed to know about negative zero, denormal numbers, negative infinity and the whole IEEE 754. If the user is supposed to understand that "-0.000" mea

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Vinzent Hoefler
On Thursday 12 October 2006 13:46, Micha Nelissen wrote: > Jonas Maebe wrote: > > can still be one (meaning that it's a negative zero). And for some > > fpu calculations this even matters. > > Like ? Divide by signed zero. That decides if the result is positive or negative infinity. :D Vinzent.

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Christian Ulrich
when the statement if (-0 = 0) is true then RoundTo schould not return an numer like -0 ?! i think the point of view of an fpu is in the round functions not nessesary 0 is 0 and not -0 - Original Message - From: "Jonas Maebe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FPC developers' list" Sent: T

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Micha Nelissen
Jonas Maebe wrote: can still be one (meaning that it's a negative zero). And for some fpu calculations this even matters. Like ? Micha ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: Re[2]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 12 okt 2006, at 15:41, Пётр Косаревский wrote: In the othe case, if the user is supposed to understand, that he looks at some representation of binary representation of a real number, "-0.000" obviously means "little negative number". No, it means the value 0, but with a negative sign.

Re[2]: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Пётр Косаревский
> >> Not only that, but -0.000 is different from 0.000 (at least for the fpu) > >> Jonas > > In a mathematical way of view I think that -0.000 has no meaning. > Well, despite the fact that -0.000 is probably indeed wrong in this case, a > mathematical view is often wrong when using an fpu :) > > If

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Andrea Mauri wrote: > Jonas Maebe wrote: >> >> Not only that, but -0.000 is different from 0.000 (at least for the fpu) >> >> >> Jonas > In a mathematical way of view I think that -0.000 has no meaning. Well, despite the fact that -0.000 is probably indeed wrong in this case, a mathematical view i

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Andrea Mauri
Jonas Maebe wrote: Not only that, but -0.000 is different from 0.000 (at least for the fpu) Jonas In a mathematical way of view I think that -0.000 has no meaning. If I round something and the resulting value is zero, well zero is zero. Not +0 or -0. a. _

Re: [fpc-devel] Round function

2006-10-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
A week or two ago, I also found a problem with the Banker's Rounding in Free Pascal. As far as I could see, with my tests I did, compared to Delphi an know results with set values, there is a bug in FPC implementation. I might have forgotten to report it in Mantis though. I will double check. R

[fpc-devel] Round function

2006-10-12 Thread Andrea Mauri
Using round function I implemented the RoundTo function as in Delphi: type TRoundToRange = -37..37; function RoundTo(const AValue: Double; const ADigit: TRoundToRange): Double; var LFactor: Double; begin LFactor := IntPower(10, ADigit); Result := Round(AValue / LFactor) * LFactor; end; In D

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Andrea Mauri
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Because your number is negative... The original number is taken to decide whether it should put the - sign or not. What does delphi do ? Michael. ___ Delphi gives 0.000 as result. a. __

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 12 okt 2006, at 14:22, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I noticed a strange behavior of the format function. I'm not sure it can be considered as a bug. If I use format('%.3f', [-0.0001]) the resulting string is -0.000 and not 0.000 Why? Because your number is negative... The original number i

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Andrea Mauri wrote: > Dear all, > this is my first mail to this mailing list, I'm not sure this is the correct > one to post this topic. > I noticed a strange behavior of the format function. I'm not sure it can be > considered as a bug. > If I use > format('%.3f', [-0.0001]

Re: [fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Vinzent Hoefler
On Thursday 12 October 2006 12:16, Andrea Mauri wrote: > Dear all, > this is my first mail to this mailing list, I'm not sure this is the > correct one to post this topic. > I noticed a strange behavior of the format function. I'm not sure it > can be considered as a bug. > If I use > format('%.3f'

[fpc-devel] format function

2006-10-12 Thread Andrea Mauri
Dear all, this is my first mail to this mailing list, I'm not sure this is the correct one to post this topic. I noticed a strange behavior of the format function. I'm not sure it can be considered as a bug. If I use format('%.3f', [-0.0001]) the resulting string is -0.000 and not 0.000 Why? A

Re: [fpc-devel] using sse2 packed doubles

2006-10-12 Thread Vincent Snijders
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Daniël Mantione schrieb: To get a large speedup, I think you should instead of making pairs of doubles, do the pixels in parallel. I.e. in this benchmark, a row is 3000 pixels wide, so, make an array of 3000 doubles, and do the operation with arrays. With proper compi