Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Micha Nelissen
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > Now, what is the difference between the Modified LGPL (as used in FPC > and Lazarus) compared to MPL. My objection to the MPL is that it's unreadable for me. The sentences are too complicated and long. The LGPL is quite well readable (for a legal text anyway, IMHO). Mic

Re: [fpc-devel] Modified LGPL standard notice

2006-12-26 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: [...note I cross posted this to the lazarus mailing list, because it doesn't really belong in the FPC-devel mailing list...] OK, I see what you mean, Vincent. What about... basically the LGPL header with the modification. I think is good enough. I would just add a d

[fpc-devel] How to choose a free software license (was LGPL vs MPL)

2006-12-26 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I finally found a website that describes the licenses in plain English which is easy to understand. I always struggle to understand the different licenses and how to decide on a license for my software I develop. Hope others will find the link useful. http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/rants/

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Marco van de Voort
> Modified LGPL (as used in Lazarus and FPC) seem to be what I want, I > was just wondering what the major difference is between the Modified > LGPL and MPL. Oh and I don't live in the USA but rather the RSA (South > Africa). Note that MPL has an escape clause exactly for this dilemma. (the GPL li

RE: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread George Birbilis
> > Btw, see > > http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp#g4 > > some discussion on why one would choose for example GPL + Classpath > > exception (an amendment text from the Classpath project) vs LGPL. > > These two > > seem equivalent, but the 1st means that one can include in > some L

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 12/26/06, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many just see GPL and stay away... Don't make the common fault about OSS. Not users are important but developers. And (L)GPL is much more developer friendly. Further, most big OSS projects I know being completly "hobbyist" driven are (L)

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Okay, maybe I posted this question in the wrong mailing list or I left out a vital part in my post. ;-) I didn't mean for a change in FPC's licensing! I was referring to my own projects and also the possibility of including that code in FPC or Lazarus (only shipping with, not compiled in). I t

RE: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread peter green
> Btw, see > http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp#g4 > some discussion on why one would choose for example GPL + Classpath > exception (an amendment text from the Classpath project) vs LGPL. > These two > seem equivalent, but the 1st means that one can include in some Linux > distr

RE: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread George Birbilis
> I let the other points to people knowing it better to answer. > > * plus point of MPL is you don't get confusion between GPL and LGPL. > > - When FPC was started in 1993 there were basically two > licenses: BSD and (L)GPL so the choice was easy. > > > Many just see GPL and stay away... > > Don't

[fpc-devel] Re: No Cursor at Win32 windowed mode of FPC IDE

2006-12-26 Thread Marc Weustink
George Birbilis wrote: > Sorry, forgot to change the subject BTW, changing the subject doesn't start a new thread (for threaded mailreaders). Don't use reply to start a thread, use new (new creates a new thread, reply stays in the thread) > Can others see these two issues too? I leave this to ot

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Tue, 26 Dec 2006, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: > Hi, > > In August I asked a similar question (LGPL vs BSD) and got a lengthy > discussion going, which helped me a lot in understanding the > difference. > > Now, what is the difference between the Modified LGPL (as used in FPC > and Lazarus) c

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: I let the other points to people knowing it better to answer. * plus point of MPL is you don't get confusion between GPL and LGPL. - When FPC was started in 1993 there were basically two licenses: BSD and (L)GPL so the choice was easy. Many just see GPL and stay

Re: [fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Aleš Katona
Let's not open a can of worms here, the truth is we can't change the license anyhow, there are too many pieces by too many contributors who would have to agree with the change in the first place. IMHO point the people who need more info to FAQ and be done with it. Ales __

[fpc-devel] LGPL vs MPL

2006-12-26 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, In August I asked a similar question (LGPL vs BSD) and got a lengthy discussion going, which helped me a lot in understanding the difference. Now, what is the difference between the Modified LGPL (as used in FPC and Lazarus) compared to MPL. Don't they really mean the same thing. * Code mo

Re: [fpc-devel] Modified LGPL standard notice

2006-12-26 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
[...note I cross posted this to the lazarus mailing list, because it doesn't really belong in the FPC-devel mailing list...] OK, I see what you mean, Vincent. What about... basically the LGPL header with the modification. { Copyright (C) This library is free software; y