Re: [fpc-devel] Re: Class field reordering

2012-07-23 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22 July 2012 14:22, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote: The more I think about these problems, the more I see class helpers as the natural extension of the language, that allows to implement extensions which have not been foreseen by the class designers. At the risk of the

[fpc-devel] Opening FPC base classes

2012-07-23 Thread Martin Schreiber
Hi, I am the author of MSEide+MSEgui, a Free Pascal development environment: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ MSEide+MSEgui is not Delphi compatible and handles some basic TComponent issues differently to Lazarus: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ Is it possible to add

Re: [fpc-devel] Opening FPC base classes

2012-07-23 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Martin Schreiber wrote: Hi, I am the author of MSEide+MSEgui, a Free Pascal development environment: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ MSEide+MSEgui is not Delphi compatible and handles some basic TComponent issues differently to Lazarus:

Re: [fpc-devel] Opening FPC base classes

2012-07-23 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Monday 23 July 2012 15:31:42 michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I don't see why you cannot do the same. It's perfectly possible to use the streaming system for both TComponent and other classes. All it takes is RTTI, which happens to be enabled

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: Class field reordering

2012-07-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Giuliano Colla said: As far as Guiliano's suggestion goes, then I rather use a cmdline option for that (when compiled with that option it is allows to access private fields), rather than syntax. (but I don't know if the PPU format actually contains enough info to

Re: [fpc-devel] Opening FPC base classes

2012-07-23 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 23 July 2012 17:12, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, please take into consideration not only Martin but also Graeme,.. :) Graeme does not need it, fpGUI does not stream components, has no IDE... For good reason. I don't want the headaches of designing and supporting a full

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: Class field reordering

2012-07-23 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, On 23 July 2012 15:31, Ian Macintosh ian.macint...@igmac.co.uk wrote: the design concept to me. What Graeme is saying is 100% correct, but also the wrong way to design imho. I don't see it like that. I have developed thousands of classes, and huge frameworks. I often find a new case where