Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: Well, let me just say that the idea of two RTL's is rather ridiculous too!! It's not different from Delphi, where the introduction of UnicodeString required a renewed RTL, VCL and IDE. Who should do the same for FPC and Lazarus, and tell the users that they either

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/12/12 16:43, Marco van de Voort wrote: > I think you have a wrong idea on what the core list contains. LOL. And how is anybody supposed to know what goes on - it is a PRIVATE mailing list. > I don't think direction on unicode (or even general) came up since the last > unicode discussions o

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Sven Barth
On 22.12.2012 20:03, Martin Schreiber wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC and to concentrate the power on the defined goals. And you think peop

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: > > I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC > > and to concentrate the power on the defined goals. > > And you think people will work on this defined goals in

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 22 December 2012 19:09:27 Florian Klämpfl wrote: > > > I must say, in MSEide+MSEgui project the things are handled a little bit > > different. For example I never planned to internationalize MSEide because > > it complicates things, is a boring task and I did not see a benefit. Now > >

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 22.12.2012 11:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: > I propose to extend and render more precisely the mission goals of FPC and to > concentrate the power on the defined goals. > And you think people will work on this defined goals instead of maybe completely other projects? Or just fork FPC? > >

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 22.12.2012 14:01, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: > On 21/12/12 17:16, Florian Klämpfl wrote: >> >> The mission goal of FPC is: develop an open source pascal compiler >> written in pascal in a community effort. > > You forgot the last bit "and be Delphi compatible!" IMO this is actually a conse

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery > > of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being > > aired in public. > > Mark, much of what happens with the FPC project seems to be done in > s

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/12/12 16:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being aired in public. Mark, much of what happens with the FPC

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/12/12 17:16, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > > The mission goal of FPC is: develop an open source pascal compiler > written in pascal in a community effort. You forgot the last bit "and be Delphi compatible!" > Maybe people should indeed first work on the compiler instead of > developing ano

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/12/12 16:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery > of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being > aired in public. Mark, much of what happens with the FPC project seems to be done in secrecy, or a p

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/12/12 10:34, Martin Schreiber wrote: >> > Please note that the message has not been posted to the list by me. My apologies Martin. I should have taken your questions and rephrased them in a list form. To save time, I simply obfuscated the names - probably not the best idea. The names where n

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread ListMember
On 2012-12-22 11:48, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, ListMember wrote: On 2012-12-22 00:27, Sven Barth wrote: Am 21.12.2012 22:20 schrieb "ListMember" : > > Can you (or someone else, of course) think of a better search string to locate it? Go to View Issues,

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, Martin Schreiber wrote: I cannot tell you neither any other developer what they have to develop. We could close down all write accesses to fpc svn till the features you need are developed but I fear you won't get them either this way. People would just fork fpc or fpc woul

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 21 December 2012 17:46:26 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > It would be good to keep those facts in mind before ranting. > > Cutting out a whole lot of crap: as somebody very much on the periphery > of the project, I'm disappointed to see sentiments of this tenor being > aired in public. > > F

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 21 December 2012 18:16:06 Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 21.12.2012 09:23, schrieb Martin Schreiber: > > On Tuesday 18 December 2012 19:07:47 Florian Klämpfl wrote: > >> Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status o

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012, ListMember wrote: On 2012-12-22 00:27, Sven Barth wrote: Am 21.12.2012 22:20 schrieb "ListMember" : > > Can you (or someone else, of course) think of a better search string to locate it? Go to View Issues, click on the + before the search bix, c